parking for 2011

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  1. khounba

    khounba Founding Member

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    It seems to me this was a good way to piss off a large group of voters at the expense of Jindal. Well played LSU. Up until now the budget cuts have only been relevant to the academic community of LSU. Looks like the concern will branch out at least a little.
     
  2. Meathead

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    Jester...first off thank you for your service to the country. As a disabled veteran, you have given more than most of us ever will.

    I never said that die hard or fair weather had anything to do with finances. I said that the die hards will find a way to keep coming. The Fair weather fans will be the first to abandon the LSU experience as it is not a priority for them. LSU football is not a right. it is not something that any of us are owed. If you want to experience it, you have to decide if it is more important than other things in your life. And if $40 means shutting off the electricity at home, maybe your priorities are out of wack.

    There have been businesses who have owned LSU tickets for decades. That is nothing new. Do you think it is a fresh concept to give tickets away as a PR move? Also, do you think that the CEO of Entergy or Shaw is entertaining people in the chairbacks? No, they are either in the suites or the Stadium Club. If you want to say that the suites or the club level are quiet & boring, I will concede that to an extent, but I have yet to see the stadium change drastically over the last 10+ years.

    As for the crowds emptying out in the third quarter of the ULM game, try being the last person in the student section in the 4th quarter of a game against Bama when they were beating our asses in the mid 90s. Unless the game is compelling, people aren't going to stick around.

    Yes, I was in a fraternity & even back then I had to deal with the same BS. People unfairly lumping blame on the Greek system. Sure, Fraternities & Sororities aren't always saints, but when compared to the student body as a whole, they are no worse than other groups.

    I will agree that adding a $20-40 charge to your gameday experience sucks, but how did we ever cope with increases in the past? remember when tickets were $20? Now they are $50+. Remember when only TAF "elites" had to pay a PSL? Now we all do. Remember when you used to be able to park on campus for free? Now you have to pay for it. It is called change & sometimes change sucks.

    I don't think that LSU did a study of kids on Chimes St selling spots for $40, but I think they did a study of what the market will bear. They are asking $40 for PRIME on-campus parking that frankly, should be permit parking anyway. If you can't afford $40, they have $20 lots. If you cannot afford $20, there are still plenty of areas on campus that will be free.
     
  3. khounba

    khounba Founding Member

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    I don't mind paying the $20\game to park. What I mind is that it isn't like the rest of the decal parking on campus. I live in N.O. so getting a decal Friday isn't going to happen. Give me the option to buy all the games up front or something.
     
  4. Jester

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    First off, thank you. Many people nowadays could care less, and even look down on the military as the last option for those of limited choices. I left a full academic scholarship at Tulane to join the Air Force and even with damage to my body that will last forever, I don't ever really feel like I gave anything up. I learned, traveled, and experienced more in those 6 years than many people get an opportunity to in their entire lifetime.

    What I am saying is that over the years, many of the people who have gotten priced out of their ability to attend LSU games were not fairweather fans. They simply couldn't afford $1500 for a couple of tickets. I never said that LSU football was a right, but LSU football makes MILLIONS of dollars off of the fans already, not to mention the MILLIONS in advertising that they get from companies who want to advertise to those fans. As someone said earlier, if they are now charging for 30,000 parking spots at an average of $30 a piece, thats $900,000 more that they're making per game. It doesn't cost anywhere near that to provide security, pick up trash, etc........and everyone is talking about budgetary cuts, but LSU athletics is self funded, with plenty to spare, so its likely they didn't need this money, they just want it.

    Oh, and I'm not saying I have to turn my electricity off, just that $160 a month is nearly the equivalent of an electricity bill in the fall. Thats a big deal for some people.

    No, I don't think that the CEO of Shaw or Entergy is in regular seats, but the boss at Bob's Marketing Group and Baton Rouge So and So and other businesses are buying up all the seats as many of the tiger fans are priced out of the ability to attend. Between my dad, myself, and my cousins, we have tickets in a few different places in the stadium, and every single place is surrounded by seats that are filled by different people every week who have just been given them by someone for one reason or another. In fact, our family is friends with a guy from a wealthy family here in BR who buys 18 season tickets near ours every year. 90% of the time he gives some or all of them to business contacts who are in town from other states and the rest of the time they go to business associates who know nothing about LSU football and are exactly the type of trashy bandwagon fan you were talking about earlier.


    Just because they can find people who are willing to continue paying the prices as they rise to exorbitant level doesn't mean its always a good idea to continue raising prices. Will they get away with it? Sure, who's gonna stop them? However, is continually making everything more expensive a good idea and will it hurt LSU's gameday experience or at the minimum, hurt thousands of people who can't afford it or who won't be able to attend because of it...........I think that is the more important question. I end up paying a little over $1500 for my 2 season tickets......thats already over $100 per person, per game. I can't think of any other sporting event, or even most concerts, for that matter, where individuals pay that much, and more, for a seat. As much as I love LSU football, it just feels like its getting to the point where LSU is becoming a little too greedy.......and I'm not the only one that feels that way.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    A few comments.

    1. 40 bucks a game isn't out of line for the paved lots on campus near the stadium. Season parking pass owners pay double that. It's a free market and there are plenty of people willing to pay. There are long waiting lists for season parking passes.

    2. 20 bucks a game for the mudhole lot on river road is absurd and I expect that to be the first thing LSU changes about this policy when the complaints roll in. At least one lot should be free. That's where those people in the corners of the upper decks park. Hosing them for another 20 bucks to walk a mile back to a car that is stuck in the mud is going to hurt single-game ticket sales when every game can be seen at home on HDTV.

    3. Huey Long is dead. Free and open LSU, free charity hospitals, free school textbooks and other "Every man a King" Louisiana traditions are about to be history. LSU has been told to basically support itself and that is exactly what is going to happen. Tuitions will rise, fees will rise, free services will become pay services.

    4. I've been coming to games in Tiger Stadium for 40 years and I have not seen significant changes in the crowd other than it has grown immense with the addition of the upper decks. It's still loud and raucous. I don't buy the notion that "Real" Tiger fans are gone because they've been priced out. I see millionaires screaming their lungs out for the Tigers.
     
  6. Jester

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    Its not about whether the "real" fans are millionaires or not. A millionaire could be an LSU alumni and a huge fan just as easily as a guy who makes $30,000 a year and supports a wife and 4 children. The point is that there are many true LSU fans who are not rich, and the ever increasing ticket prices, along with mounting extras, are making it harder and harder for them to continue to be fans.......and that's sad.

    Going to an LSU game should not be a right, but it also shouldn't be an oft unattainble luxury.
     
  7. LSUtiger327

    LSUtiger327 Pow right in da kissa

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    ok i can't give you rep again so soon.
     
  8. Meathead

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    Jester...you say that you pay around $1500 a season for 2 tickets. That puts you in the chairbacks in the West Upper Deck outside the 20s, or in seats with a TAF donation of $400 each. You have options if the LSU experience is getting too expensive. I am in the South endzone. My donation is $210 a seat. My total cost is $1120 a season. Right there is a savings of $380 from what you are paying.

    There are also seats in Tiger Stadium that require no donation or a $250 donation. You can always go to the LSU ticket office & request to move into one of these sections. It may not happen right away, but if you are determined to stay in the stadium, it is an option. I'm not picking on you or saying you cannot afford to go to games, but if money is that tight, you have alternatives that can keep you in the stadium.

    As for the cost per game, try getting NFL season tickets. My father-in-law has season tickets for the Tennessee Titans. They put the true cost on the face of the ticket including the PSL. How does $200+ a game sit with you? And that includes preseason games.
     
  9. LSUtiger327

    LSUtiger327 Pow right in da kissa

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    well it's apathy that kills a program. whether fans love miles or hate them whether i disagree with them or not, most are passionate about LSU football.

    you're making this increasingly personal. i'm not sure why.

    all i'm doing is shedding light on the fact of why i'm against it. i don't need sympathy.

    you gonna gladly pay $40 on fri night coming from N.O.? go back to N.O. and then drive back the next day? maybe you are more dedicated than most.


    everyone has reasons why they do things the way they do them. maybe if i were arguing with the style you are using against me i would just tell you to get to campus when the sun comes up like i do.


    so you just show up to a tailgate and tailgate. must be nice.
     
  10. LSUtiger327

    LSUtiger327 Pow right in da kissa

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    so we're gonna make this more like the NFL? good, i thought it was gonna change.
     

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