Pakistan - "Ally"

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  1. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    One more. During the Korean conflict, China attacked American forces. I have to admit that China didn't attack American territory but they did attack American troops. America was a nuclear power in the 1950s and china wasn't yet. I'm not sure if that counts since it wasn't an attack on American soil but china wasn't deterred by the threat of an American nuclear response.
     
  2. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    aaaaannnnd....

    i think it's time to activate that ignore feature! the troll shyt is getting rather deep.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ooooh, good one! I am a doofus for missing that one. I shall promote you to Corporal.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I think he's just fugging with us . . . it IS the off season.
     
  5. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    I do too. Hence the troll reference and ignore function. I don't have time for nonsense.
     
  6. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Well, I guess you really have to watch your language on this forum. I will try to be more precise in my definitions. If you consider the Chinese keeping the North Korean communist forces from collapsing under American assault an act of aggression by China against the U.S. then you and I have a different idea of what aggression means.

    US forces were nearing the Chinese border.....we were threatening Chinese territory. That is a defensive action on the part of the Chinese.

    Non-nuclear states try and defend themselves against nuclear states all the time. Typically they lose.
     
  7. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    But its sooooooo entertaining.
     
  8. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    The U. S. had no U. N. mandate to go into china. There were no plans to go into china. China was protecting the communist gov of north Korea. As in relevance to this thread, China was not detured by American nuclear power.
    American power was used to protect democracy in a U. N. member country being attacked by a hostile neighbor. No conspiracy there.
     
  9. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Apparently the UN failed to make that clear to the Chinese. I am no expert on geography but I think the Yalu river is the border between China/N.Korea.

    from wikipedia under the subject of The Yalu River:



    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalu_River]Yalu River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Again, we have a different understanding of the idea of aggression. I suppose my original wording of "attack" was not sufficiently clear. Any conflict will have "attacks" from both sides. There have been conflicts between non-nuclear and nuclear states so certainly the nuclear states have casulties.

    This was not the point, though. The point was an operational act of aggression by a non-nuclear state against a nuclear state.

    And, no I don't think Egypt/Syria qualify either. There was a threat of Soviet deterence...somewhat ambiguous possibly but it did factor into the equation.
     
  10. alfredeneuman

    alfredeneuman Founding Member

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    What's an operational act of aggression?
     

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