Offensive Line Comments

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  1. arizonafan

    arizonafan Veteran Member

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    Those are some pretty awesome stats and very eye opening. So how are we doing it differently than Troy? I don't think I've ever seen them play. When you are looking at 18 to 20 less snaps per game that's really significant.
     
  2. pharpe

    pharpe Founding Member

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    Here is what the problem is. JJ does not know the playbook and how to read defenses well enough to run this style of offense.
    They way the communication in the scheme is supposed to work is:
    • the OC calls a play in the booth,
    • the offense lines up,
    • OC radios play down to the sideline,
    • and the sideline signals the play into the QB.
    The advantage here is that with the offense going directly to the LOS, it forces the defense to get into their set early, thereby tipping their hand. After getting the play, the QB can then make his final checks and audible if there are mismatches etc.

    The problem is Crowton is doing that task from the booth. So the delay that we are seeing is JJ standing there waiting for the OC to radio any last minute changes down to the sideline then into the QB. That’s why it looks like JJ is always staring blankly trying to get the play.

    IMO, either Crowton needs to have more confidence in JJ and turn him loose or run another style of play calling.
     
  3. DRC

    DRC TigerNator

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    Troy runs a true no huddle. They walk up to the line, look to the sidelines and get the play and then get set in the down position.

    We have a semi-huddle, walk up to the line and get set. Then we stand up and look towards the sidelines for the play and then have to get re-set in the down position and run the play.

    Our O-lineman are getting up and down more than a ho bobbin knobs on a busy night.

    I agree with Grad in thinking this is having a negative effect on our O-lines performance. They arent getting set long enough preparing for the play. They also have to think fast since the play is called in from the sidelines a few seconds before the snap.

    I dont think you can serve two masters. You either commit to the no huddle and run it all the time, like Troy, or you run what you practice most of the time. This meerkat seems to be disrupting the offense and causing more confusion for us when its supposed to confuse the defense. We just dont run it well and its probably because we dont practice it enough.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ciron Black has gotten his ass whipped too frequently this year to be immune from some bench time. Hebert is not the weak lineman, Dworaskzyz is, but I'm not sure a green rookie is going to help us, they will just go through the same mistake-making phase. Dworassick has improved greatly over the first two games. What has Hurst or Lonergan shown anybody?

    I don't think we need the change the starters, we just need to rotate them more with the new guys. Break them in gradually while giving the starters a rest and give them an opportunity to make something happen if they can. If they get their ass whipped, then put the starter back in for a while.
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Sheesh, it was just a suggestion:rolleye33:
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's not like I asked, "Why bench the three white guys." :yelwink2:
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    lol i dont care if they are green. When Hurst played a few snaps I thougth he did well. I said Longeran because he is bigger than T-Bob, not to say that T-Bob hasnt done well.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Why Barksdale to Guard?
     
  9. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    sure. this has been done by offenses for years now. the idea is to disallow defensive substitutions to form mismatches as well as tire them out. along with calling a play based on the defensive set.

    some run it effectively.

    Florida does the same thing and puts up about 50 points a game. they simply didnt have to saturday night. they punted once.




    they do look good at times. the end of the UGA game they were pile-driving them on many plays. Some parts of the UF game were decent until it became apparent we couldnt throw down field.

    our scheme doesnt do them or JJ any favors. thats the real issue methinks.

    also in short yardage, dugas seems like our best lead-blocker.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Cause he is bigger and has a strong lower body base. Thats usually good for a guard, because he isnt quick enough to block the edge from what I see. I read somewhere that he squated over 700lbs the record at LSU.
     

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