Sorry compadre but declaring victory doesn't make it so....ask GWB about that. Otherwise, you've still yet to defend your original statements and therefore I am left to believe that you are unable to defend your positions. You say that I am continually deflecting but I challenged you to defend your claims and you've yet to do so. How that equals you and TigerTailgaiting achieving "victory" is beyond me, but then again, you never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Equating NY liberals bend to their recent gun laws is perfectly reasonable and in no way have liberties been lost. Once again, I've challenged you to name the liberties you've lost and you still have not. NY is liberal so they make liberal gun laws; Texas is conservative (at least for now) so they pass restrictive abortion laws. What's the difference?
Over taxed. Under represented. Forced to pay for activities I don't support. Freedom. There's you a lost liberty. Being forced to work 3 1/2- 4 months a year just to pay all the bullshit taxes. Funding terrorists. Paying for abortions. Paying for politicians to take hundreds of millions of dollars worth of vacations. Taxpayers taking the risk for campaign contributors in the form of bailouts and subsidies. Giving money to countries that would love to see the USA destroyed. Freedom. There's your lost liberty. It used to be a wife could stay home with the kids. The husband could work 40 hrs a week, pay all the bills and still be able to afford to take vacations. Not anymore. And if I wanna strap a gun on my hip and walk through downtown New York I should be able too. If I don't want health insurance then that's my problem. Its not some piece of shit in Washington, D.C.'s job to tell me what I have to purchase.
Certainly have. you just can't see the reality but that's okay cause I never thought I'd change your mind. In the context of the debate, no, it's not. It was invalid. I showed you that. Did you miss it? Sure there have. I also pointed that out too. You missed it also? Surely did. You're just not wanting to see, apparently. Not sure what this has to do with anything. Oh yeah, another attempt to spin away from the issue at hand.
And not have to be limited to 7 rounds in a 10 round clip. He doesn't see that as a liberty lost, apparently.
Bet the bad guys won't be walking around with half a clip loaded. And if the popo can pack 15. I can too. Funny story. We had a cookout at my best friends house one Saturday night. 5 couples. Curt had just picked up a new Kimberly .45 he wanted to show me. He laid it on the patio table. Cool. Custom grips and engraved. I laid my S&W .40 on there. Rob lays down a Glock 9mm. Curt then goes gets 1 of the AR''s he was building. Lays it down. Rob goes to truck and gets 2 of his. 5.56/.223 and a .308. Brandon goes to truck and brings back a M&P 45 and his Colt AR .308. Will goes and gets a M&P 40 and rem 700 .270 and lays those out. Curt, back in house and comes out with another AR 5.56 NATO. This went on for another 30 minutes. By the time show and tell was over with. There wasn't room on the table for the burgers. It looked the Nuge had stopped by. 'Murica!
Da phuck? I KNOW you just didn't do that!?!?! It's like blue ballz. You should be banned for leaving us hanging after reading all that bullshyt.
Damnit! Half my post got wiped out. We ended up getting a little tight and a coyote got to howling in the bean field behind the house. Beer, bourbon and a small arsenal. We lit those soybeans up. Not sure if we hit that lil bass tird but you can bet he felt like he'd walked into a Vietnam. That's what's so great about country living. If you fire off 60-100 rounds at midnight. Ain't nobody there to call the law.
it's not a revocation of your liberties and, more so, you cannot prove that it is. In fact the very best lawyers that the gun industry and the republican party can drum up have argued their precious hearts out to three or four judges now, a few of whom were conservatives, and each and every one of them have agreed that limiting the amount of rounds in a clip is not, in any shape form or fashion, a violation of your 2nd amendment rights nor any of the liberties contained therein.
You will never change my mind by NOT offering evidence to support your argument. Throughout this thread I have challenged you to provide som sort of support for your claims but you've yet to do so. You insinuated that your personal cash flow was diminished since Obama has been in office but you never offered support for which of his policies have led to this result. You claimed that Obama care was going to be a nightmare upon it's full implementation yet you can only provide an opinion piece from the Heritage Foundation for supporting documentation. Hell, why don't we just ask Sean Hannity what he thinks......surely he'll be unbiased. You've repeatedly claimed victory in this debate, which ironically enough you've never truly engaged in, and purported that my understanding of reality is porous. Through all of this, you've never once done anything to justify these claims. Oh yes, I forgot that you also said I was, or must be, angry. But I digress. When are you going to make your case my friend? When are you going to stop reducing each of your posts to one-liners and try to put forward something....anything.....of substance? I have no need to spin away anything. Name your subject and let's debate the merits of it, one way or the other. But to stand back and take pot shots is cowardly and indicates that you are incapable of formulating an intelligible and convincing argument.
NC, you know as well as many others I go back and forth with you, but I have to say that I agree. While I strongly disagree that limiting the amount of bullets in a clip does much of anything (as you can still carry multiple clips) I firmly agree that it does not hinder a single liberty. By some of those here notions, the very existence of the 2nd should allow RPG's and machine guns.
