Obama Missteps

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, that is normal for a modern election. And far from Obama being "toast". Obama did not even get into the argument in Wisconsin, never visited the state once.
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Why would he object to things that are working from his opposing party?

    He had no leg to stand on...
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    He's opposed to breaking workers collective bargaining rights, obviously and supported the unions. My point is that he didn't make a personal case for this recall election so it is a stretch to say it will defeat him in November. That's a long time away and there are more important issues. I don't think the public gives a shit about Wisconsin politics.
     
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    Potty mouth~!
     
  5. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    pump $5trillion borrowed dollars into any economy and it will look like it's doing good. isn't it more accurate to compare gdp to budget deficit to really get an idea where the country is headed? under Bush he had an avg of 500 billion budget deficit a year and democrats wanted to crucify him. when barry o took over it increased another 1.4 trillion a yr and democrats want to carve his face into mt rushmore and make the elementary kids write reports on his accomplishments.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The stimulus was 800 billion dollars. Get the facts right.

    The economy is indeed doing quite well and has not collapsed which was the alternative. Is that what you advocate? Every industrial country in the world pumped money into their economies to weather the Great Recession. A Republican would have done the same thing.

    More accurate in what way? What is the comparison and what does it tell you?

    Actually, it increased another 900 billion. Don't forget that most of the debt is still that produced by Bush unfunded mandates like "No-Child" and the Trillion-dollar Medicare Prescription Drug plan and huge unfunded war expenses.
     
  7. LSUpride123

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    Would this be the same unfunded troop surge in Afghanistan? Libya? The OBL killing?


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8389778.stm

    So the HUGE unfunded war is not OK for Bush, but fine under Obama? Where did the funds for the 30,000 new troops come from?
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Pretty much the same, the unfinished job has to be finished. Of course Obama did not create the situations and his spending has been a fraction of what the Previous Administration spent.

    What galls me is that ever since Vietnam, the general public has had no investment in wartime sacrifice. The public PAID for the enormous expense of WWII by rationing, higher taxes, and private industries shifting to high-productivity war production. Modern politicians now try to insulate their voters by borrowing the money to prosecute the wars. The military has to do the professional job and take the casualties and they should not be asked to do so without the full support of the public. That means everybody must dig down and pay for the damn wars. The public must make sacrifices, too.

    By investing everybody in a wartime footing, it should help serve to make our politicians stick to prosecuting smart, vital, winnable wars and passing on the protracted, unnecessary, and un-winnable wars.
     
  9. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    we need to stop rebuilding countries we've gone to war with. blow the shit up and leave them to rebuild. nobody is offering to put the towers back up and japan didn't rebuild pearl harbor. the US should re-do the draft policy. if your able to work but choose to be on welfare then in the event of wartime draft you go to front lines. kill 2 birds with 1 stone. they get a job and taxpayers might have 1 less mouth to feed and clothe, and house, and pay for daddies babies, and rims and 40's.
     

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