Obama loves the Navy Seals...Now, anyway

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  1. OBXScott

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    Then I'm glad Obama was the President instead of you, because if you don't require moral courage to send Americans in harm's way, whether it's to kill Osama Bin Laden or Wiley the Coyote, then you wouldn't be fit for the job.
     
  2. alfredeneuman

    alfredeneuman Founding Member

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    What military members?
     
  3. alfredeneuman

    alfredeneuman Founding Member

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    I've never run for president, so it only makes sense he was president instead of me.

    But you're barking up the wrong tree with your moral courage drivel. I've witnessed and experienced moral and physical courage more times than I care to remember.
     
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    The Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General James Cartwright, said in an interview that there were several members of the the military who were involved in the the decision who advised against giving the "go". They advised using "daisy cutters" instead of a SEAL team. When asked which ones advised against the op or if he was one of them, he declined to state names, saying that it was irrelevant, that the point was that the Commander-in-Chief listened to all of the intel and recommendations and, upon "sleeping on it" made "...an extremely difficult and courageous decison" the next morning.
     
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    Then you've obviously forgotten. No harm. It happens. Some of us do remember, however.
     
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    Oh, almost forgot...that's exactly why I'm glad he was President instead of you.
     
  7. alfredeneuman

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    Give it a rest, hotshot.
     
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    In other words, he listened to the ones that really matter - those actually conducting the operation. What courage!
     
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    LOL!! Just keep clicking your heels together and repeat "There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home" and it'll be alright.

    You may have "seen and experienced" more moral and physical courage than you care to remember, but, based on your relative ignorance of the responsibilities of someone in charge, you've never actually had to make a decision that sent Americans into a situation where they might not make it bad. Again, it's ok, hotshot. Some of us have...and we know what we know. Go take a powder.
     
  10. alfredeneuman

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    You're right. My (insert # here) tours don't really matter. Neither does my company command during my second. Or assuming command in my first tour after my commander was killed. I wouldn't know what any of that means. I wouldn't know the difference between moral courage sitting in an air-conditioned office giving the go-ahead, and moral courage giving the go-ahead when I'm actually out there with my men doing it.

    I've done this for over 23 years, jim. I don't go around on the board flaunting anything, but will bring it up if need be. If you think your experience level matches mine, bring it. Otherwise, dont' assume you know something you don't.

    Your idea of moral courage (and whoever that wikipedia guy is you threw out there) and mine are from different perspectives. Even you said moral and physical courage is rare or unique, and I agree. So please tell me what was so rare or uniqe about making the decision to kill UBL? What sitting president, all things being equal, WOULD NOT have made that decision? You would have had a better argument for moral courage if O had not given the go. It would have been stupid and probably political suicide, but that decision would have been rare or unique.
     
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