no, hypocritical is when one proclaims racism and intimidation to be wrong. except when it happens as payback. you know, the taste of whiskey. :rolleye33:
Its definitely wrong on both sides, my point is dont go out of your way to discount it when its your race against mine and then highlight it and want to foster discussion when its the other way around. I remember this case very well and if what this says its true then its wrong, no matter who did what before. Just tired of the hypocrisy like its some kind of monopoly on who can bring up race and who cant' without someone accusing me of pulling the race card. And Im not talking directly to you Okie, I just happen to quote your post.
I promise you....you have never tasted MY whiskey. As time goes on, there are fewer and fewer of the people left who actually feared for their life when they went public to buck the system. The civil rights act was passed more than fifty years ago. Now we use the same schools with the same teachers. Instead of advancement, we often see the standards lower. Heck..We had people fail and drop out even when it was all white schools. They sure didn't just get passed. We knew then that it was get an education or work harder for less money. There are endless ways to attend college available to all. For years there have been mandates helping people who have had less opportunity to advance. Take advantage of it. Use it for your betterment. Just how long can the government keep supporting people who refuse to work and just have one child after another? I talked to a lady just the other day. She is the one who brought it up. She told me she knows a woman who has eight children, has never worked a day in her life, has never been married, is in her thirties, and get checks for all the children. Then she goes to local churches for help. She never misses a church dinner (with children) but never brings a thing. People....our unemployment rates are alarming. Those that do work often have a hard time finding a good job. Sooner or later, those taking free handouts are going to outnumber those paying in. I truely hope that does not happen in my lifetime. I don't want to see what happens when these free incomes are eliminated...free food programs are drastically reduced....people are forced to do "some" kind of work to qualify for any help if physically able. And those claiming to not be able, are actually checked out. Those with a bitter attitude will possibly become violent in their demands. Those bitter toward the ones that have grown to hate in return for many injustices pushing a century ago are going to sooner or later feel that enough is enough in terms of payback or preferential treatment. I pray to God above that does not come about or our country will fall from within. We "better" find a way to CARE FOR EACH OTHER or at least have mutual respect. Bring the choir back up.....I'll step down.....:thumb:
yes, and all personal bickeringm on tf aside, and who has said what then, that (imo) is the bottom line. wrong wont stop until one side or another says they wont look the other way when it happens to the other person. what reallly disappoints me about this, is that obama and holder could have set an example of rising above others and saying the past was wrong, but because we know what it is like we will not let happen to others what happened to us. maybe the phrase "turning the other cheek" isnt what i am looking for here, idk, but off the top of my head it comes close. turning the other cheek on the past and saying "enough". no one, ever again. no problem, i think you know where i stand.
Those are the people who should be getting drug tested and on a merit system when it comes to assistance, if you dont have a steady job within a year or two, then you dont get anymore assistance because you have shown a pattern of dependence and laziness. Or even a part time job but in school as well is better than just being on assistance.
thats how it is unless there's kids involved. i hope they force them to get jobs if the kids are in school, but doubt it.
Oooooh, How will i ever sleep at night now, knowing that "the dude" thinks i am stupid. If i am so stupid then why do reply for every damn comment i make mr. internet tough guy? And if by saying everyone you mean SabanFan and yourself, then please, give me the suicide hotline, because i just may walk off a cliff later. I have stated over and over and over and over that i don't support either side doing this, but you are too ****ing ignorant to read, so quit wasting my time, and yours, which you obviously have enough of.
the solution is called day care. working families choose whether to have one parent stay home and forgo the income, or if it is more financially viable for both parents to work and pay for day care. if working families have to make the choice and put their child in day care or not have the extra income, others should not have the choice to sit on their ass. i would rather pay for day care assistance and the parent work than a complete hand out to do nothing. yes, money is still going out, but not nearly as much. and the principle of the person actually having to work is not lost.
wouldnt be able to find daycare if that was the case (at least here---and i dont know why). but im with you, except there would be hardships---like two kids in daycare would be more than fulltime min wage---and, the hardship i often run into, going overtime. law says they cant be there more than 9 hrs/day. my solution is to make daycare free for all and give little welfare out.
Listen up, Hoss. If you are going to paint me as a bigot you should come up with proof. As for owing you an apology, here's what I said: Clearly my issue was your trying to crawfish not that you pulled the race card. If you owned up to it I'd have no problem. I didn't compare you to Cleaver. I said the chip on your shoulder was Cleaver-like. That's a distinction with a difference and you should bone up on your reading comprehension before throwing out accusatiuons of racism. Angry Black man? You sound pretty pissed to me. That is not a racist expression is it? Should I get a book of translations? You are the one showing true colors here. If you think I'm going to walk on eggshells around you just because the subject involves race, you are mistaken. I've been called worse by ignorant people before. You have yet to address the actual issue which is the subject of this thread. You have been too busy trying to call me out as a bigot. Call that whatever you want to.
