Obama Administration sues truck company for firing alcoholic driver

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  1. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    Why can't a company state openly that they will not hire union workers?
    Why can't a company state openly the reason being to avoid strikes?
    Why can't they use this as a selling point to investors?
    Why can't a company openly state their reasons without the worry of government intrusion into that decision?
    Why couldn't a company erect a sign on the side or their building a hundred foot wide saying" We won't hire union workers because we don't want to worry about strikes. We will not hire union workers. Non union applicants can inquire inside"?
    Why is it governments business or rite to interfere in a company's right to hire union or non - union workers?

    The sole reason is that unions support democrats and they will do everything possible to protect them. Next I will be called a fox news watching stupid idiot. If you're not a union loving liberal , you must be a dumbasz. Right?
     
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  2. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Because it's against the law.

    Unions have outlived their purpose. They have become money-hungry corporations, like the people they claim to fight.
     
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  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    When will union supporters realize that unions are looking out for the union...not the worker?
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You really should read up on labor relations. You clearly don't understand the law and the reason for collective bargaining in the first place. American once had policies that you advocate in place. The business could do whatever it wanted and the workers had no rights at all. Moreover the companies could operate that way even if it was against the best interests of the nation, like send their factories overseas or contract out to Chinese factories. So the nation took measures to find some balance between management and labor for the best interests of all.

    And balance is the key. There have been times when big business was overpowered and there have been times when big labor was overpowered. Adjustments have to be made from time to time to find equilibrium, which is in the best interests of the United States.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    About the time when republicans learn that big business is looking out for big business, not for them.
     
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  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the unions are one of the reason they send work overseas. and unions cant stop that anyways.

    unions help the worker at the expense of everyone else. like for example the teacher's unions are terrible for children but keep horrible teachers from having to do a good job.

    unions are ok, the problem is that the government protects them.

    again, it is the market that should protect the worker. you dont like your job, take yourself to the competitor of your employer. if you are worth what you think you are, you will be rewarded.
     
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  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    That doesn't take away from the fact that unions have gotten away from their intended purpose. There are laws today to prtect workers. Unions have outlived their purpose. They are nothing but PACs.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I have a number of issues with unions, but collective bargaining is not one of them. We can't return to the robber baron days of the 19th century with workers effectively in a serfdom.

    Unions got way too powerful in the 1950's and 60's but have dropped off considerably. The mob influences have finally been broken and those temping huge pension funds are now managed properly. I think workers have a right to strike when bargaining breaks down, but I disapprove of the union tactic of all unions honoring the striking union and shutting down an entire job or factory. Let the contented union workers keep working.

    I think workers should have a right to unionize a factory if they wish and they should have a right to de-unionize if the company makes them a better offer. There are factories in this country where the management and labor work together and work out practical solutions and unions are unneeded. This is where we need to go, but it takes management that is committed to not exploit labor and vice versa.

    So far this mainly happens in Japanese companies with factories in America. Executives make less money than US counterparts and employees are part of the team and don't get laid off on a whim.
     
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  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Let the workers start their own factory and then they can do whatever they want to.
     
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  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    again, the solution is simply for the government to not take sides.
     
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