Obama Administration sues truck company for firing alcoholic driver

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I don't have to like it. Get them treatment and when they are sober, get them a job. Not the other way around. Business's job is to make money, not coddle society's problem children.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i think the point is that if it has been a disability since the 80's then the issue isnt about obama
     
  3. b_leblanc

    b_leblanc That's just my game...

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    I could care less about Obama. The main reason I posted the link was about a company being sued by the government cause they fired an alcoholic. Kinda like the ACLU, people need to know their role and quit hiding behind and finding loopholes in the constitution.
     
  4. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    point is, to me, it should be up to the business on how to handle it.

    full disclosure, my ex-husband went through treatment for alcoholism. i know how regimented out-patient or aftercare from inpatient treatment can be. being responsible, whether it be with work or family is a very strictly adhered to if the person is truly getting sober. as an employer, i think the person committed to sobriety will make a great employee. it is up to me to treat their alcoholism as a disease in regard to medical treatment, meaning if i want to treat their getting help the same i would any other employee with a medical problem, that is my choice. if i choose to see the positive side, that is my choice.

    i dont agree with punishing it, at all, and as i said before, i think it is a poor business decision. but my approach to it has to do with not just my previous experiences in dealing with alcoholics and their going through the recovery process, but in what that experience has shown me in regards to my business.

    i guess i think it is sad that so many seem to not be able to seperate "practicing alcoholic" from "recovering alcoholic". the difference is most often night and day.

    ok, i lied before that i had said all i thought. maybe i'm done now. :hihi:
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Democrats.
     
  6. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    In the real world, people in good standing with their company seek treatment for alcoholism and after completing said treatment, they're not forced to take a paycut. I know this for a fact has happened and in a highly regulated industry where people's lives are at stake.

    In this specific case, the company was not going to knowingly let him drive if he had a problem. He was going to seek treatment and then return to his job, only they refused to allow him to return to his previous job and pay. The "problem" has been resolved. He should be allowed to return to his former position (per Federal Law), especially since he was open and honest about his condition.

    You know, he didn't have to do that. He could have just kept his mouth shut to keep his job and pay. Then eventually when his problem does affect his work, he is involved in an accident and kills someone. As a result, the business is sued. This employee sees that potential issue on the horizon, makes a conscious choice to do the right thing (a very difficult choice for any addict to make) and seek treatment and as thanks, the company offers him a part time job for $12 an hour.

    What's the incentive for current (unknown) alcoholics within this companies ranks to step forward and get control of their problems again?
     
  7. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    True, but let me turn this back on the EEOC, and the feds in general. It is the bureaucratic mentality to be self-sustaining. This is true regardless of the party that holds the White House. The EEOC, for instance, exists for the purpose of making sure that no one is discriminated against in the business world. But Congress continually is constantly passing laws designed keep everything fair in the work place. So EEOC has less and less of a job to do, and becomes more of a watchdog than anything. If they don't find problems, they can't justify their existence. This will become a more and more prominent phenomena in the upcoming months; with a massive budget cut looming, the various commissions, agencies, etc, will be doing more and more to demonstrate that they are necessary and worthy of their bloated budgets. The result will be crap like the case we're discussing.
     
  8. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Along the lines of the government being on the wrong side of business:

    NLRB Sues Boeing; Seeks End to Commercial Jet Production in South Carolina

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  9. Rwilliams

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    A perfect example of union power in American government. If Boeing can't decide where it can build it's own plants in America, it should send the plant to Mexico and take out a few full page ads across America in newspapers explaining why they did so.
    Why can't an American company decide where they can and can not locate? Why are the people in Washington state more important than those in South Carolina? Answer: Washington is a blue , union state and South Carolina is a red state full of non union stupid worthless rednecks. What other reason can there be?
     
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  10. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    A company can decide where to build their own factories, provided they don't do something colossally stupid like issue an actual document that states the reason for selecting the different location was to avoid union strikes. Boeing could have moved without incident had they just kept their mouths shut. Plenty of businesses have managed to bust unions and subdue their power without breaking the rules, so it's possible. Just not for arrogant, stupid people.
     

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