N.Korea considers missile strike on Guam after Trump's 'fire and fury' warning https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...after-trumps-fire-and-fury-warning/ar-AApJPYg North Korea said on Wednesday it is considering plans for a missile strike on the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam, just hours after President Donald Trump told the North that any threat to the United States would be met with "fire and fury." A Korean People's Army spokesman said in a statement carried by state-run KCNA news agency the plan would be put into practice at any moment once leader Kim Jong Un makes a decision. North Korea also accused the United States of devising a "preventive war" and said in another statement, citing a different military spokesman, any plans to execute this would be met with an "all-out war wiping out all the strongholds of enemies, including the U.S. mainland." North Korean elites increasingly think Kim Jong Un is a weak leader Conditions are ripe to prepare for Korean peninsula unification https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/nor...-jong-un-is-a-weak-leader-new-study-says.html "Kim Jong Un appears increasingly to the elites as ineffective and not a particularly good leader,..... "Other than North Korea's weapons and [the] ballistic missiles of this regime, Kim Jong Un doesn't really have a lot to make him feel empowered,"..... recent events such as the murder of the dictator's older half brother show how the leader is "clearly paranoid." If Kim were to die suddenly, North Korea's elites would probably not choose a successor from Kim's family, ending their dominance since the state's founding more than half a century ago,.. based on interviews with defectors. "North Korea's elites have heavily gone into being entrepreneurs,".... "They would look to set up an economy like the Chinese which is what the Chinese have been asking them to do." More than two-thirds of North Korea's trade is with China, giving Beijing significant economic leverage on the rogue state. At the same time, Chinese authorities do not want North Korea to implode as it would likely spark a refugee crisis into China's economically struggling northeastern region. South Korean leaders have supported unification of the peninsula but have been ineffective — the North has strongly been against it.
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The best solution would be for China to kill the bastard, (I'm not talking about Moe),.. aside from assassination, or a very improbable coup, all other options would mean the deaths of hundreds of thousands, minimum..
I posted this in the other N Korea thread. Trump just set his own, uncrossable 'red line' — and North Korea crossed it instantly https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/tru...ne--and-north-korea-crossed-it-instantly.html A U.S. offensive on North Korea isn't likely anytime soon, experts said, which means Trump just made the same mistake as his predecessor. "Certainly, the president cannot back up a red line,". Defense secretary James Mattis and new chief of staff John Kelly are unlikely to sign off on any military action, so this may just be yet another example of "Trump being Trump and firing off his mouth," the article says a U.S. military buildup would need to occur, similar to Iraq's, it would take months before we're ready. Seoul has a population of 10 million people, it is within artillery range of North Korea, any military action would mean it's destruction, South Korea is against any U.S. military action on the peninsula,.. we could expect no cooperation from them. I agree @el005639 , he's gotta go, but there are no good military options.
It was not smart for Trump to come out so forcefully unless he really intends to drop the hammer. If he doesnt intend to drop the hammer then he will look as feckless as obama did with Syria.
I don't see why we don't just STFU and let that shithole implode. Just keep what sanctions we can enforce, and let events in NK unfold. I read an analysis this morning that NK elites are a) tiring of the fat boy b) are becoming entrepreneurial and c) want an economy like China. We need to forget all the military crap and HELP make it happen economically.
