quit playing word games. When some one commits larceny he is a robber or theft. Same damn thing. He got drunk, he got in a car, and he killed someone. Did he have the intent to kill someone? No, but he did have the intent to get loaded and then get in a car.
Plax did it in NY and that's the law, felony. If Manning did it in NY, I would hope he would get the same sentence. Plax also tried to not report it, no holster, tried to keep his friend quiet, did all he could to avoid and not fess up to it, so NY had to make him an example, especially because he's well know. It sucks, but that's how it worked out. Stallworth, while intoxicated, who knows if he wasn't he might have still hit the guy. He was jaywalking and even though it was no excuse, if someone steps in front of your car, inertia might take over. And the big thing was he fessed up to it at the scene didn't he?
see this makes it worse in my opinion. Are you telling me that he actually shot himself, and left, and no one knew about it until he went to the doctor? How exactly did this happen, because i thought he was arrested at the scene. Also, i was wondering when i was watching a show the other day. Do doctors have to report all bullet wounds to the police? How does that work?
It's not word games - there is a huge difference in vehicular or intoxication manslaughter than murder legally and (at least in my mind and the mind of most other people) morally. The fact that you are saying you recognize he had no intent to harm anyone is why it's manslaughter not murder. Manslaughter can be a misdemeanor, murder is always a felony. The victim is still just as dead either way. The law however sees it differently. The law recognizes different degrees of culpability depending on circumstance. A guy who steals a loaf of 3 day old bread to feed his family is guilty of theft. So is Bernie Madoff. Both are guilty of intentionally committing larceny. Fortunately the law sees different degrees of guilt and culpability. His sentence seems incredibly soft to me. But he did what you and I or anyone else who has the money to buy good legal representation did - he got the lightest sentence he could. If he were a welder and committed the same crime and got the same sentence, how many of you would think it only fair that he never be allowed to support his family by welding ever again after he'd paid his debt to society? The NFL is not our criminal justice system It is his employer. As such they have a reasonable right to expect a certain standard of public conduct of their employees. But if they were to suspend him indefinitely for this crime, he would sue them and he would win.
This is from an article in the Times last Dec. when the case started... "A more detailed timeline of the evening also emerged. Police said Pierce, Burress and running back Derrick Ward arrived at the Latin Quarter nightclub with two other people around 11:30 p.m. Friday. Burress had been allowed to bypass security, even though they knew he was armed, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity. The club is said to be fully cooperating in the investigation. Around 12:05 a.m., as Burress was being escorted to a VIP area with a drink in one hand, he somehow ended up fumbling his gun and it discharged, hitting his thigh. Pierce was with him when that occurred, police said. It's believed Pierce took Burress to the car and then left with him, according to police. The .40-caliber Glock was found in the glove compartment of Pierce's Cadillac Escalade, but it's unclear who put the weapon there. Police are trying to figure out what happened in the two hours that followed. Burress showed up at the hospital around 2:20 a.m, and was discharged at 1 p.m. Saturday. Police said they had to track Burress down by canvassing local hospitals, and he had been discharged from New York-Presbyterian by the time detectives got there Saturday. An administrator then refused to give detectives information, citing privacy rules, police said. The gun was eventually recovered at Burress' house in New Jersey, authorities said. The case drew the wrath of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has waged a long fight against illegal guns during his time in office. He called for a full prosecution of state law that requires mandatory prison for carrying a loaded handgun. "I don't think anybody should be exempt from that, and I think it would be an outrage if we didn't prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, particularly people who live in the public domain, make their living because of their visibility - they're the role models for our kids," Bloomberg said. He also lashed out at the hospital, based on the allegation that officials may not have properly reported the shooting. "It's just an outrage that the hospital didn't do what they were legally required to do. It's a misdemeanor, it's a chargeable offense, and I think the district attorney should certainly go after the management of this hospital. The lame excuse that they didn't know - this is a world-class hospital," he said.
this is total bull****. Plax should have thrown the gun away. Plaxico isnt the posterchild for everything that is good in this world, but a criminal he is not. Going back to what i said earlier, i am willing to bet, that had that been Eli Manning, nothing would have ever come of this. :angryfire
He was criminally stupid, that's why he's behind bars. He was stupid to have a loaded Glock with no external safety mechanism as a concealed carry weapon in his pants if he didn't know how to properly handle it. He was stupid to mix alcohol and firearms. He was stupid to carry a pistol without a permit for self defense in NY where everybody knows it's illegal and the mayor is so adamantly prosecuting everyone to the fullest extent. He was stupid to feel like he needed to carry when he's obviously inept with it and he can easily afford to pay professionals to to it for him. And most of all, he was a complete idiot for not throwing the damn gun in the Hudson and telling the hospital he was shot by a mugger that he didn't get a good look at. A Glock isn't that expensive that it can't be replaced. No I don't believe Eli wouldn't have gotten as harsh a sentence had it been him but I'm sure we'll never know for certain because Eli isn't that stupid.
Pick your reason for saying that nothing would have come of it if it had been Eli Manning instead of Paxico 1. Eli is a Superbowl hero QB and Plaxico is just a really good WR? 2. Eli has a squeeky a clean reputation and while not a criminal, Plaxico has had restraining orders issued against him for a couple of domestic disturbances 3. Eli is white and Plaxico is black Even if Eli had been stupid enough to carry a loaded gun into a club in New York City and had shot himself in the leg how do you think he might have handled it differently? Would Eli have called Daddy Archie who might have advised his son to throw away the gun and then either called the Giants team doctor if they had a relationship with him and could trust him to stay quiet about it or advised him to call another doctor in the area who could be trusted? From the instant that Plaxico felt the bullet in is leg he should have been aware of what kind of trouble he could be in if he didn't take the right steps to keep it out of the public eye and out of the awareness of law enforcement officials . A man in Plaxico's position and wit hthe amount of money he earns should know somebody in a medical capacity he could call on to give him treatmant while remaining mum about it for a few thousand dollars. I paid $475 for my Glock Model 23 .40 caliber 10 years ago, but If I had ever been so stupid to shoot myself with it in a New York night club it would be at the bottom of the Hudson or East River.
