New Arizona Immigration Enforcement Laws

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  1. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    i thought the opposite about the article. this tactic is more efficient. they can hit many more employers because it takes one agent to audit as opposed to 20 to raid and its way cheaper. they also get to all the illegals hired by the company, not just the ones present at the time.

    if the illegals cant get a job theyll leave. they are replacing them with guest workers. sounds like what people want. they should expect prices to increase though.
     
  2. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    i have no problem with the audits. that is good news. however, i do have a problem with not deporting the illegals. every single company that hires illegals wont be audited and they will just move on to something else. this is tackling only one side of the problem.
     
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  4. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    another program, this one a federal one, using fingerprints of those arrested to tell if they are in the country illegally.

    and of course, it is drawing opposition. and i dont get it. the program is targeting those that are arrested for crimes. god forbid we target criminals. and i mean criminals for things other than being illegal.




    Immigrant groups criticize fingerprint initiative - Yahoo! News
     
  5. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Its called political correctness and racism, there is no longer anything that isn't considered one or the other.
    It is what happens when a country starts a downhill spiral.
     
  6. gumborue

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    for me the only issue would be if one is arrested but never convicted.
     
  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    yet they are in the country illegally, in itself a crime. while the program is targeting criminals arrested for other things, illegal is illegal, and that is the risk they take for coming here in an undocumented way in the first place.

    i am aghast that cities like san fran are so intent on this stupid "safe haven" philosophy, they would rather have a criminal element than deport illegals. how much does it cost not to deport criminals that are illegals? incarceration is not cheap. and its not like any place in cali is flush with cash. even if you are pro amnesty and all that bs, we arent talking about people with all honest and hardworking intentions.
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    illegal is not illegal. just because some politicians made a law, that doesnt mean something is immoral. the immigrants want exactly what you want, the thing you are so insane to care about when it is symbolized by the flag. the illegal immigrant isnt trying to take something of yours or whatever. he wants the same things you do, he probably values them more than you do. especially given that you cant understand the concept of symbolism vs reality.

    yes we are.

    immigrants want opportunity. there is nothing wrong with wanting opportunity. they dont want anything you dont want, and they dont want to take anything from you.
     
  9. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    I agree that most illegal immigrants are not criminals and are only looking for a better life. But that does not justify their violating immigration law. If they want to come to the United States they should do it in the proper and legal manner. Every country has a right to secure borders and every country has a right to determine who is allowed in and who is not - every country except the United States. But the immigration issue is also a safety issue. There is a strong criminal element involved in illegal crossings and we would be foolish to ignore that. The purpose of the Arizona law is public safety. Also, Mexicans are not the only ones crossing. The Border Patrol has apprehended people from Syria, North Korea and several other terrorist states crossing illegally. Immigration Law needs to be enforced and the border secured. Plain and simple.
     
  10. martin

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    why not? would you bring your family here, for a better life? i would. i wouldnt care if is was illegal. would you condemn your family to a life of poverty because you are scared of american laws?
     

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