New Arizona Immigration Enforcement Laws

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    that would require repeal of the 14th amendment, and the chances of that are exactly 0%
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The 14th amendment does not permit foreign parents of citizens to become citizens. It says nothing of the kind. You are quite wrong.

    The "anchor baby" issue is due to an legal code, namely the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. that gives special immigration priority status to family members of US citizens. I do not advocate denying citizenship to people born here, just denying foreigners to take advantage that privilege to subsequently entitle their entire families to special immigration status.
     
  3. martin

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    so your proposal is that we take the immediate family of citizens (helpless children) and deport them?

    why not just deport the spouses of citizens while you are at it?

    will never happen, total waste of time, posturing on the part of stupid people in arizona.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That's right. Illegal aliens. And its not my proposal, its the law and the 14th amendment does not protect them.

    Parents and grandparents are not spouses. Have you forgotten the subject was "anchor babies"?

    You were wrong about the Constitution and you are wrong about the Arizona law.
     
  5. martin

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    ridiculous that you would deport the parents of a citizen. the citizen is totally dependent on them!

    why is it different? if i can marry a russian girl and bring her here, then a mexican child should able to bring his parents here. he is exactly as american as you or me.

    please pay attention. okie said

    "we should revoke laws making the children of illegals legal citizens,"

    that would require repeal of the 14th amendment, and the chances of that are exactly 0%

    i feel like i am repeating myself. why cant you listen?
     
  6. martin

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    oops i realize now that i was too lazy to read what you were saying , and we were talking about two different things regarding the constitution. the whole time i was referring to okie's idea that we revoke citizenship for kids born here. presumably you agree with her on that?

    and again, the arizona people are stupid morons and will only make themseves look like asshats.
     
  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    good solution.

    i obviously wasnt thinking of all the problems of why anchor babies wont ever be denied the right to citizenship. however, the parents of those children need to obtain citizenship as legal immigrants, not illegals.

    if this brings forward debate on such a large loophole for illegals, then it is doing what it should. just as the other arizona law has made the national debate on illegal immigrants more prominent.
     
  8. martin

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    would you allow these parents to have citizenship? if yes, then what is the problem? is their status as an illegal so much of a big deal? so they work for cash and dont pay taxes, so what? they provide cheap labor we need. and they pay sales tax. i would liek to see the math that shows how much of a net drain they are, and i want that math to include the positives we get from cheap tax free labor.

    all it has done is reveal that people do not understand immigration at all. again, we need immigrants, we need lots of them.

    and i am still not sure why we wouldnt want to confer the advantages ofd being an american on as many people as possible. i mean, i admit that i dont give a crap about anyone but myself, but the rest of you are liars and usually pretend like you care about human beings. if you do (you dont) then one of the best things you can do is allow people to be free in america.
     
  9. gumborue

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    spouses of citizens have no special rights. its just easier for them to find a sponsor.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

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    Just more bs from Arizona, but as long as it moves the conversation right?
    another stupid law that is unconstitutional.
     

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