Another problem with the id is that it relies on a database that will be extremely difficult to manage. We are talking about 300 million plus unique ids, each with multiple records. It will require a huge team to perform add/change/deletes. Another team will have to review the exceptions reports. Another team will have to clear the exceptions. Another team will have to exist to handle the inevitable database errors. Another team will have to monitor the changes made by that team. Corporations have these issues, and they don't have anywhere near the volume this thing would have. On top of that the database will have to interface with every sheriff's office, police station, hospital, school, clerk of court, and airline check in station in America. A huge litany of data integrity standards will have to developed, implemented, and be audited at untold cost. Many of the users would require massive systems upgrades to meet these standards. This system would cost tens of billions of dollars, and speaking as an expert on risk... there is a crap ton of risk with national id.
would security be factored into that risk? I mean wouldn't hackers or any criminal want to get into a national identification database?
But not impossible. The government already manages larger databases. Yet they solve them, its just a matter of scale. Wow . . . it would be like having to have telephones and internet connections in all these places and they would have to interface with all the others . . . :rolleye33: Well, a fair assessment would identify billion of dollars in savings as well, perhaps far more. Our savings from fraud alone would be huge, not to mention the waste of all those paper records eliminated, and the streamlining of legal identification processes. What does the crap-ton of risk consist of?
again, what is the problem we are solving here? red, have you ever met an enormous government plan you didnt love? why so extreme? the pragmatic approach is to be cautious and smart with change. to make existing policies work better before trying a massive boondoggle. please try to be more measured and balanced instead of always favoring huge extreme craziness.
Immigration, homeland defense, fraud . . . please pay better attention, it has been discussed at length. Selective Service, 1973. It's not extreme, Joker. It's a friggin' ID card that is better than the one we carry now. Does that seem extreme to you? :insane: Exactly. Making existing counterfeit-able paper ID cards into secure digital IDs similar to passports is a pragmatic and smart improvement.
But not very well. Just last year I got a letter from the IRS telling me that the social security number I used on my son was incorrect. I re-checked my form to his card, and they matched. I called social security and it turns out his card was printed with the wrong number. I would not go that far. I would say they have created workarounds, and put systems of internal control and reconciliation in place and at tremendous cost. Corps spend lots of money reviewing exception reports, reprocessing errored transactions, manually entering data, tagging and tracing transactions, and the like. IT is a considerable effort, and folks are on call 24 hours a day putting out fires. My point is the scale would be huge, and lots of individuals would be needed to make it work. We are talking a massive new federal bureaucracy. Not even you can be that naive. It will take a tremendous effort to get the multiple platforms that will inevitably have to hit this database talking the same language. Spending dollars to save pennies. All the paper is still going to be necessary because when something goes wrong we will still need some type of hard record to tie back to. Well as with any data base there are segregation of duties issues that must be overcome. Manual entries will be necessary and each one has the chance of a fat fingered digit that is missed in review. This could cause tremendous consequences for individuals. The database will have to be built from existing databases which contain out of date or errant data. A massive undertaking of identifying, sourcing, and vetting every freeaking American will have to take place to make sure they get their id. This leads to tons of problems because the documents used to determine identity can all be forged. How are the control processing objectives going to be met? Completeness Accuracy Validity Restricted Access What happens when the database fails is or ishacked. What problems do lost, stolen, and damaged cards pose? This information will be accessed a great deal, and every time it is the threat that it will be intercepted exists. Nothing is full proof. I much rather all my data be spread out than have a one stop shop for the criminal element.
no kidding. the federal agencies have a hard time coordinating and its been 10 yrs since 911. we're just now getting to where the can track deadbeat dads across state lines. for this to work well in our lifetime is pie-in-the-sky. walmart
