Muslim Brotherhood Takes Elections by Storm

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Give me one concrete example. Just one. What presidents have had their college papers "released". Who says Obama hasn't? It seems so ridiculous.

    Obama is not disarming the country. You haven't offered any examples of that either.

    Then vote your convictions. vote for candidates that oppose such Orwellian laws. They exist.

    Please, try to make a point here. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Speak clearly.

    I agree, but that is THEIR PROBLEM. They are having issues coming out of the 14th century all over the Islamic world. Not just Arabs, but the Persians in Iran and the ethnic Indians in Pakistan, too. Their women are resisting and their educated youth. It's hurting their country's modern changes to compete when they don't utilize half of their population and distrust education.

    Sharia Law makes relations with the West difficult. That is why secular elements in the middle east are gaining more power. The Arab uprisings are mostly modern youthful secular uprisings. Democracy simply allows radical elements to have political parties as well as religious parties. They have a lot to sort out and it is THEIR FUGGING PROBLEM.

    We can no more stop them than we could stop Russia, China, Israel, South Africa, India, Pakistan or North Korea. If they are determined to build one, they can. Let them bankrupt themselves building one. South Africa actually built and tested a nuclear weapon and then dismantled their nuclear weapons program before it bankrupted them. They can't do a damn thing with them without committing national suicide. It was a very expensive weapon that they could have never used against a nuclear enemy and is no use at all against their guerilla enemies.

    Every enemy Iran has is already nuclear armed or is an ally of a nuclear armed United States, Britain, France, China, or Russia. Even Iran's local third-world petty powers, Israel, India, and Pakistan are nuclear armed. Their acquisition of nuclear arms is entirely defense in nature. They desire some deterrence capability themselves because Israel has a habit or bombing enemy nuclear facilities and the United States has a habit of demolishing your military and industrial infrastructure, invading, and occupying entire countries.

    Who has been ignored. Who is a threat to invade anybody? What threat haven't we countered effectively. Be specific.
     
  2. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Maybe so but I don't see Obama is anything like all the rest of the presidents. He is different. For example at times he won't put his hand over his heart while the national anthem plays or reciting the pledge. He also has said some very divisive things along the way. When the health Care bill was passing he didn't care about the process he was only concerned with the results. More questions are asked about him because of his background, up bringing, living in Indonesia, etc. but the problem is only the conservative media for the most part asks the questions. The liberal media which is pretty mainstream ignore much of the left because they are cheerleaders of the left.
    There is plenty in the news about this ever since he took office. Here is an article where he calls for America to lead the way to eliminating nuclear weapons. Seems like a naive, dangerous plan if you ask me except for the status of the missile defense shield system.
    Obama calls for 'world without' nukes - Jonathan Martin and David S. Cloud - POLITICO.com
    Exactly but what good will it do?
    I just think its funny that you take up for him on every single subject. Its like you are protecting him or something?

    You keep saying its their problem but it becomes out problem when an event like 9-11 happens or when an American is kidnapped, tortured or be-headed.
    All of this affects us when it spills over the border sadly.
    I think we could target their sites, we have the weapons. I don't think there was a need to stop countries other than Iran. Iran is the one country that has talked of eliminating other countries not to mention its ties to terrorist networks. I do believe though that Russia and other countries could be aiding the Iranians in their attempts.
    They are threatened because of the radical regime in charge of the country.
    No other country has talked about eliminating other countries off the face of the earth.
    Nevermind, I misunderstood.
    Have a great weekend and I'll talk to you next week.
    Geaux Tigers!
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Example?

    What politician hasn't?

    Duuhhhh! They are trying to rake up mud. What is wrong with living in Indonesia? John McCain was born in Panama. So what?

    And the conservative media ignores much of the right because they are cheerleaders for the right. Moot point.

    Nuclear arms reduction has been a stated aim of every President since Truman.

    You attack him on everything topic imaginable, some of them perfectly absurd. Then you are surprised to find that someone disagrees with you . . . on a political debate forum? Who is being being naive?

    So when a terrorists appears we need to destroy the terrorist. But trying to change 50 million muslims, most of whom don;t care about the US and are focused on their internal issues is the kind of foolishness that got us into Iraq and accomplished nothing but bad things for the US.

    Nuclear weapons. Iran is no threat to us. Why would we risk starting a nuclear war in a volatile region. What exactly would it gain us? What happens when the radioactive nuclear fallout falls on Russia and China? I can give you a long list of things that it could do to hurt us. Number one is bankrupt us with another unneeded war. Has Vietnam and Iraq not taught us that war is not the answer to all problems.

    Nonsense. Have you forgotten North Korea, who has talked of hitting the US with a nuclear missile? Or Pakistan, who harbors the worst terrorists in the world?

    LSU35, Georgia 17 :thumb:
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Obamahu Akbar
     
  5. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Ok, I dropped by early to call a truce, I no longer like politicians or politics in this country. Sometimes I fall into the old trap of debating and talking in politics but we aren't going any where here. I didn't mind for a while and I don't mind but this becomes exhausting at some point.
    If you look in the predictions thread my prediction is 34-17 LSU! :grin:
     

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