Muslim Brotherhood Takes Elections by Storm

I can't find the thread, don't know which one it is of Red and I debating Obama's foreign policy. I told him that time will tell how Obama's foreign policy turns out but it isn't looking good. Why does it look like Obama sides with Islamist, Socialist countries instead of Democracies and some of our allies? Not saying it is the case but it sure has looked like it over the years. I think its appeasement myself. Red is counting Obama's Eggs before they hatch, no doubt about it.

Muslim Brotherhood Takes Elections by Storm - Middle East - News - Israel National News
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Judges overseeing the vote count in Egypt's parliamentary elections say Islamist parties have won a majority of the contested seats in the first round. The judges spoke on condition of anonymity because official results are expected to be released later Thursday.

They say the Muslim Brotherhood could take 45 percent of the seats up for grabs. The liberal Egyptian bloc coalition and the ultra-fundamentalist Nour party are competing for second place.

 

$39B given to Egypt in foreign aid. What did it give us?

 

I wasn't trying to prove he was siding with Islamists or socialists or anything, I said it seems like. It is no different than the liberal media making up a story to find evidence against anyone they are against. I don't think the story has been fully written here though. Many of Obama's college term papers are a mystery. There is more mystery concerning this president than any other in the history of the United States.

I don't think you can prove that the Muslim brotherhood or extremists were as much in power under Mubarak as they are now. I think its safe to say Egypt just may have been more of a Democracy under Mubarak than they are now. As I have said above and in our other posts on this subject. We don't know the truth behind any of this because the story is developing, on going as we speak.
The difference between you and me is that I don't take up for politicians any longer and that you do. I don't trust nor do I like the government of the country that I now live. I believe Americans have very little to no say in what happens in their lives. Government breeds corruption, greed and power. Lobbyists paying off both parties, politicians have more say than you or I. That is now why you see people in the streets from all sides.
The vote last night by both parties is proof of this, any American can be arrested or held for any reason under the laws of terrorism. If I understood what I read last night, the military can do it, doesn't have to be civil authorities. There are two Americas, the ruling, wealthy class and then the pee ons which are the American people with no money, no power and no say, no hope, no change in dollars and bad change since 9/11. We are becoming enslaved in the name of terrorism.

 

I can think of many things that happen that don't make sense especially at the time they are developing.

I believe a lot of people care but it is probably too late since he is president.
A lot of people voted for him because he was a celebrity type.

His term papers, no friends from college coming forward, medical records, no ex girlfriends, etc.
Its like it all was white washed or he was ushered into the country to replace the real Obama.:grin:

I am not sure how the army stacks up to the leaders over there but the Muslim brotherhood ARE winning a majority of seats.

Mubarak was a dictator but he kept the raghead extremists away, Muslim Brotherhood. There will be no democracy in Egypt after a period of time, Muslim Brotherhood and Democracy will not function together.
I don't expect Egypt will ever have a true Democracy, the world was probably a safer place with Mubarak as leader of Egypt. Again this is a developing story but this looks like the way it is developing.

Correct, According to this article Egypt may go Extremist, hostile to the west and Israel.

I don't know about that, Politics and politicians, many have sold out their own country for lifestyle. I think its all gone to crap including the media bias.

It may be the best system in the world for now, I think that change is ongoing and may not be in a few years, I don't think some of the changes since 9/11 is good, I see a lot of bad things happening. I think we may becoming prisoners in our own country the day the TSA can do what they do
at Airports, road blocks, now the military can arrest and hold you without trial until Congress declares the war on terrorism over and the president has his kill list. I stay here because for a few reasons, I am kinda poor or I'd buy and make my own damn country, Island. The other reason is my family is here and I don't know if I could convince them to come. I am thinking of a plan to get the heck out just in case things get really bad......

I hope you are right, I don't see anything getting better, just worse.
Our rights have been so eroded, The TSA, our government, military can now do anything they want with you in the name of terrorism. End of story
Some use to complain about the Patriot Act, we are far beyond that now.
The Constitution is nothing more now than a meaningless piece of paper.

 

What is so kookie about finding out about his past?
Again there is a lot people don't know about this man, more so than any other president. I don't think its kookie at all to search his past like the liberals do to conservatives, look at the dirt they dig up for conservatives.
Is it kook stuff to question his pastor and his church?
How about him calling his mother a typical white woman?
I would like more equal treatment for both sides and the country would be better off.

Really? This is interesting, do they believe in Sharia law? I hear they hate Israel. I don't know if a Muslim group can be conservative?

Agreed here however I don't know, Egypt could go that way also. Time will tell. People are crazy in that part of the world IMHO.

Man I hope you are right, I'll be able to sleep better at night!

 

I don't know I think its more like why weren't his papers released like any other president? It started out with the birth certificate and went from there.
Its his own fault IMHO some of this has happened because he has been so secret. We do know what is in his books and he is unlike any other president in some of his views.
Your college papers are a mystery to me:grin:
I know a little bit about you but not really enough.
You aren't president yet and you aren't disarming the country or spending the country into oblivion, you didn't ban drilling in the Gulf until most of the Oil Rigs left and you didn't sign a contract with Brazil to drill in US Waters.I'll ignore your last part, there is no reason to be defensive really.

What the hell? I was talking about equal treatment from the media. I don't give a **** about politicians. We know what they do. I won't defend republicans or any politicians, Clinton wasn't exactly a saint. There all **** to me, go find someone else to debate besides me on this Republicans or Democrats, many are the same, you just dissolve the Republic faster with Democrats.
I don't usually use words like this, I am not mad, just trying to drive home the point that I believe politics and politicians, lobbyists, everything is going down in this country. The vote the other night to let the military or police arrest and detain you for no reason was the last straw for me. Sorry if I didn't make my point clear earlier. I'm sorry if you don't like what the Republicans did to clinton all those years ago. I think what is more important is the decline of the country, deficits, debt, freedom and liberty. It amazes me how much people use to talk about the Patriot Act and today NOTHING about the losses of freedom and liberty. As far as I'm concerned I have only one person to vote for, Ron Paul, I don't like his wacko overseas policies but he hadn't signed the bill to practically make this country a police state like the Republicans and Democrats have.

That is ridiculous, typical white woman? You take up for him? :lol:

Maybe you are right, I don't know. What I do know is that freedom and democracy probably can't co-exist with Sharia law. I am against any kind of Islam where people aren't treated equally. I can see what you are saying about some forms of Islam not threatening the west but I don't know if I can believe in it if it treats their own people badly.

I don't think this is possible.
Do you actually let Iran get a nuclear bomb and do nothing?
Do you just ignore countries that may invade others or ignore threats to wipe countries off the face of the earth?
I don't know, Obama sure pissed off Pakistan.