"Moderate islam Does Not Exist"

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    christians believe that non-believers will burn in hell for all eternity, and that christians should "spread the good news of the gospels" to everyone to save their souls from the eternal fires of hell that they damn well deserve if they do not believe that jeebus is the savior.


    well, i would assume tnat lots of adulterers are drunk, but sometimes they are stoned i would guess.

    i personally want women to shut up and a mainstream american religion, mormons, they are kinda cool with multiple wives. islam does not a have a monopoly on oppression. thats pretty much what religion has always been, a tool for oppression.
     
  2. spikke

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    So what? Leftist like Red believe in social justice, in universal healthcare for all, that the rich should be brought to their knees for having the audacity to be successful, and that our every whim should be looked after by the nanny state in the same way it was in the old Soviet Union. Nevertheless, since I don’t give a sh!t what Red thinks, why should I care what Christians think? You are indeed very boring.
     
  3. spikke

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    Indeed, it is very normal for Muslim men to rape young boys and to screw men younger than themselves, as Muhammad used to partake in that practice himself when he was still rampaging and slaying infidels. Yet, for some odd reason that bizarre practice isn’t considered to be homosexual in the Islamic world. Go figure.

    However, having a love affair with another male in the Islamic world will quickly get you beheaded.
     
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    because you appear to be interested in the way religions influence society. you can broaden your perspective a bit.

    the point you are making is stupid. we all know damn well that there are murderous loony muslims. you havent told us anything we dont all believe strongly. again, all you are doing is redefining islam to mean only the crazies. and what is the point of that? to emphasize how dangerous they are? we already know, we are terrified of them!

    THATS NOT TRUE I AM INTERESTING AND EXCITING!
     
  5. spikke

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    Oh on Turkey, I almost forgot to mention that Turkey announced late last week that it supports Iran's nuclear ambitions. Thus their announcement should be recognized for what it is: An announcement that the NATO member state has joined the Iranian axis with Syria, Lebanon, Hamas and the Hezbos and at the same time stabbed the US and Israel in the back.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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  7. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    I recall seeing a documentary and it mentioned how many Muslims rationalize this, too.

    No it's not. I have read several articles and viewed a couple lectures. She has a definite axe to grind and she's not afraid to show it. Her data is seems accurate, but she presents it in a way that sounds like the blame belongs with the religion and not the people who are acting in the name of their religion.

    No it's not. The expansion of Islam is growing, but that does not equate to it being "Islamazied". For example, in 2004 France passed a law banning religious symbols in public schools. It is illegal for Muslim children to wear a khimar to school. This is a measure of separating church and state that America has not even taken.

    My point exactly.

    Are you calling me "Nietzsche"?

    I never said that it was exclusive to Arab countries only. I did say that the behaviour was not normally found in Western countries, so if you use the process of elimination everything outside Western countries is up for grabs including Northern Africa and south Asia.

    I have no problem with connecting the dots. You just refuse to see the picture it creates. There is nothing that supports your accusation that Islam (an absolute, meaning ALL of Islam) is radical, much less a totalitarian ideology. Christianity would have to share this ridiculous notion because they are so similar. The difference is the impact of Western Culture.

    I think the better idea would be for you to actually meet someone who is Muslim that will share with you their beliefs.

    Female genital mutilation is a criminal offense in almost all western countries. It probably happens less than dog fighting. In fact, there are laws restricting almost everything you listed in your little tirade in the West. However, things still happen. Pentecotals impose strict dress codes for the purposes of modesty, radical Mormons practice polygamy and their religion encourages large families and many children, countless women in this country alone are beaten for religious and non-religious reasons, etc. None of this has anything to do with Islam any more than Eric Rudolph 's abortion clinic bombings are a direct result of the teachings of Christianity.

    Yes, all 57 (non-Western) countries.

    I read it. I just wasn't wearing my retard glasses, so obviously I didn't get out of it what you got out if it. You can drop the line about moral relativism. It's not making you look smarter, especially when you repeat it in the same post. I'm imagining a recording of Nietzsche as read by Elmer Fudd when reading it.

    Let's speak plainly: It's simply ridiculous to assume or claim that 1.6 billion people feel the way that you claim. This world would have been torn to shreds years ago if this were true. You really need to open your mind a little instead of just digging in and fighting for your (uneducated) point of view. There are radicals in every walk of life that misinterpret, exaggerate,m bend and twist seemingly legitimate schools of thought and doctrine to fit their warped view of the world. It does not accurately represent the entire group and anything that has evolved beyond a single celled organism should be able to come to that reasonable conclusion with very little help.
     
  8. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    You know, after reading some of your posts in this thread and several on this forum, I regret having replied to you because you don't really have a history of intelligent banter and you refuse to let go of your position, even when you've been proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. There is no question that anything I have ever read that was posted by you would ever stand up to the slightest bit of academic scrutiny.

    I know that sometimes I come off with a "I'm better than you" attitude and it's posters like you who bring this out in me.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Let's all vote. Who is the peabrain here, Spik or Red?

    I'll say it one more time and I'll try to use really small words.

    It's not about you. It's not about me. The United States of America considers many Islamic countries to be friends and allies and that is a fact. We have bases among them, we have military treaties among them, we train and equip their militaries, they buy our weapons. They are of huge strategic importance to us sitting astride the oil field and shipping lanes as they are. Any fool can see this.

    Those who simply ape Israeli PR designed to promote their vital national interests, which are not identical to the vital interests of the United States of America, are stooges of foreign interests and not patriotic Americans.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Find me one post where i have ever advocated multiculturalism, social justice, and the rich should be brought to their knees.

    You can't do it. You made it up.

    You are arguing with yourself because no one will play with you.
     
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