so take the best one of the lot, santana. say he wins 10 more games this year and ends up with 75 career wins going into next year. he would have to win 20 games a year for 11+ straight years in order to reach 300. he would be 38-39. very very unlikely. do the math for all of them and I think you'll have a better understanding how rather improbable it becomes.
oh, i wasn't bashing your point I put the numbers to support your point parity in the game today will hurt the 300 game winner, b/c the same teams aren't good year in and year out no more I think Sabathia can do it, though, b/c he throws so many innings the more innings you go, the less likely for a ND you are, obviously but also, the more likely for injury you are, so it works both ways i guess
no you said a few of them have good shots if they get on the right team. i disagree. if you understand the difference with 5 man rotations and the specialty closers its more likely none of them reach 300 regardless of their teams. winning 20 games that many years is almost impossible which makes clemens' 360+ wins and maddux's 325+ that much more incredible when you realize they werent pitching complete games of double headers like cy young did. they went 9 innings every game long ago and viewed it as an insult for a reliever to replace them. today most starters wont pitch a complete game all year.
maddux had 75 wins by 25 and 95 by 26 the only person on the list on pace is CC and Felix if he can hit his stride soon I think Dontrelle can catch up if he goes to a team like Boston who will score for him The stars all have to allign perfectly, but it can be done to answer your question, i do think 250 will eventually be the new hall of fame milestone just like 575-600 hrs will be also
It will take a while after Clemens, Maddux, and Glavine retire for some people to realize just what they have been watching over a couple of decades. Who's the next closet to 300 out there Pedro? The "magic number" in pitchers will fall and the HR count will rise. Just picked up tickets to go back to Houston. Going to see the Rocket launch off on the 22nd against the Twins. Very good marketing getting #22 to return on the 22nd and the Stros have a Roger Returns ticket package for the remaining 22 games he will pitch in the regular season. They will be giving out some cool posters that night. Staying at the Inn at the Ballpark just across the street.
just got back from philly, watched another met massacre. i can barely remember what it is like to watch a met loss.
I'm sure you'll have plenty of reminders as they fade after the break (though for the life of me, I can't figure out why they would -- probably a lot of wishful thinking and history on my side.) :hihi:
hmm, the mets look around and wonder who wants to challenge them. and the phillies, they figure they will give it a try. so the mets go to that stupid but beautiful new park in philly and:
lovely broom pic there martin Mets on a roll.....offense finally back on track....Mr. Delgado (pronounced Del-ya-do) getting going again.... The key to the Mets post-season success (yes they will run away with the division) is the starting 3 in the rotation. If Glavine can keep it up (that's a big IF) to go along with Pedro the magnificent, then that's 2/3s of the puzzle. Who fills in the 3rd spot? Will Wagner hold up in the bullpen? If he does, that may seal the deal for the Mets first championship since 1986. Mets/Red Sox rematch? Quite possibly.
Agreed that 300 is too high a standard for the Hall. It's virtually impossible to get to that number anymore. Who has the will to follow the grueling regimen that The Rocket endures? No one. He's one of a kind. I think the pitcher who has the best chance is Oswalt, if he doesn't retire in 5 years like he says he will. He constantly pitches 7 or 8 innings and gets a ton of decisions. That's the key. But even he has had problems with injuries.
