MLB losing its mind concerning Japanese players

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  1. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    My understanding is that it's over until next year. Ouch for all involved.
     
    NoLimitMD, Nov 16, 2006
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  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    If a deal isn't agreed to by all parties, then he goes back to the Japanese league and the bidding starts again next year, with the Red Sox getting back the entire posting fee. That's the loophole in all of this. I would like to see them assess a 15 % restocking fee. That would be approximately $7.5 million in this case. Would help keep a team like the Red Sox from cock blocking, altho I guess since he's a Jap that there is no such thing (please refer to Southpark "You Americans have huge penis" episode).
     
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  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I've always maintained that most owners have just as much money as Steinbrenner, but he's the only one who chooses to spend it wisely.
     
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  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Damn, this was nearly a flawless post.

    You were almost there, except you incorrectly used the word "wisely".

    I'm sorry but Johnny tell him what consolation prizes he's won. Thanks for playing.
     
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  5. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    Even if they don't sign him, it's a loss for the Sox. With that much money potentially tied up in one player (not the bonus to Seibu), their free agent strategy will be different. Could mean missing out on another pitcher.
     
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  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    it may be old news, but it turns out the mets bid was second place around 40 million, which they thought would win. nobody really anticipated that the sox were going to blow everyone to shreds.

    i like that the mets have that kind of money, and that they are willing to spend it this winter, and also that that they did not spend it on bidding rights for mr gyroball-san.
     
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  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    The problem with Japanese pitchers is endurance. Their season is signicantly less taxing since they pitch only once per week. And these gimmicky pitchers do well at first and then MLB eventually catches up to them and they are reduced to mediocre pitchers (see Hideo Nomo's career chart). And then their is the injury factor (see Mariners reliever Hasegawa).
     
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  8. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    I heard somewhere that the Japs throw something 140-160 pitches per game, so it would balance out somewhat.
     
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  9. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    Or prematurely ruin their arms. It's a different type of endurance. This guy had two consecutive starts of over 200 pitches, and once pitched something like 350 pitches in two days. That can have a screwy effect on a pitcher's arm. I'm amazed ANY of them can pitch more than a couple of years, with the trauma that's put on the arm for each pitch.

    As for the Japanese players only having initial success -- there's a lot of anecdotal evidence around that. Off the top of my head, Hidecki Irabu was great for about 1/2 of a season, and Hideo Nomo turned into Hideo Can'tThrowNoMo seemingly overnight. Not sure how he got his stuff back, though it was probably a change in mechanics.
     
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  10. Bengal Buddy

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    MLB has more money than what it needs.
     
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