mitt romney, turnaround artist? 1998

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  1. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Its not just the Repubes doing nothing....
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The AMERICAN TAXPAYER is who bailed out the Olympics. Romney used $1.3 Billion in federal funding on the 2002 Olympics . . . more tax dollars than was spent in all the previous US Olympics combined. Don't take my word for it, take John McCain's.

     
  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    pointing to the fact that the dems didn't vote for Obama's budget is not an indication of their unwillingness to act on anything. The Republicans have refused to act on anything at all and it isn't because they have not had plenty of opportunities. Obama tried to include them in the health care debate but the Republicans tried playing cat and mouse and eventually he moved on and used his majority to pass the legislation. There is an infrastructure bill sitting in congress that could be passed. Historically, infrastructure work has been the best means of government spending because it puts people to work for a few years until the private sector recovers from recession as well as improving our infrastructure and providing a tangible result for people's tax dollars. That said, the Republicans have been resistant to even that. Last summer when we were having the debt ceiling debate and Boehner and Obama were working on a debt deal, by all reasonable accounts there was a grand bargain put in place between Obama and Boehner that dissolved because the Tea Party Republicans shot Boehner down and refused to vote for it. This would have been a deal where Republicans got 3 to 1 spending cuts to tax revenues; a win by any one's account yet they refused. How much further along could we be right now if that deal had been passed? At the very least we could have avoided a credit downgrade. I could go on and on but you get the gyst. It's been one thing after another and at the peril of the American people, not just democrats.
     
  5. Winston1

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    With Harry Reid (Dirty Harry) acting as the Prez's pocket veto BHO & the dems have done their part to create and extend the mess. Many bills passed by the house with bi-partisan votes have been killed in the senate by DH because he won't bring them committtee or the floor. That makes it easy for BHO to rail on Congress as do nothing because Harry is doing his bidding. Some brave Dem committee chairs will admit this too.
    There is more than enough blame to go around here this mess isn't a wholly owned subdidary of the Reps. This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
     
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  6. Tiger in NC

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    Getting four or five blue dog democrats to vote yea isn't bi-partisan.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The House is Republican and the Senate is Democratic and there are damn few bipartisan bills.

    Most of the bills being touted by a Georgia Republican Congressman have not been very “bipartisan” at all. A majority of House Democrats voted against all but 5 of the 27 proposals, sometimes overwhelmingly. One of these “bipartisan bills” had the support of only four Democrats, and another had the support of just eight.
     
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    As usual, you try to frame an argument I didn't make. My point was that I would prefer a candidate with Romney's experience over Obama's experience in their first party nomination and presidential run. That's it. You then created an argument that I think Romney, from an experience stand point, is more qualified than Obama to be president. Only an orangutang would think that.

    explain to me how being a professor gives you experience for the office. I also left out Romney's experience as the head of Bain capital in my first post. It was a four line post.

    Experience isn't the only factor when running for president. And no, his experience didn't give him much legitimacy. It's something he fought his entire campaign if you'll remember.

    Not true. You always try to change arguments. It's intellectually dishonest and quite annoying I might add. If you want to argue against my point. Then argue that 2008 Obama had more/better experience as president than 2012 Romney. I argued that I would prefer a candidate of 2012 Romney's experience more than Obama in 2008.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Is that your response? Is that supposed to be an insult? I'm embarrassed for you.

    That and his unmentioned legislature and Senate experience was to disprove your allegation that Obama was merely a "community organizer".

    A campaign that he won! How much more legitimacy can you establish than by BEING ELECTED!

    I always try to win debates, chief.

    You're breaking my heart.

    That's your spin now. What you actually said was . . .

    "Your boy was a senator for two years. I'll take a governor, head of the olympics, etc over a community activist when you're talking about experience."

    The whole thread has been about THIS election and you never mentioned anything about 2008 until you got called on omitting most of Obama's experience.
     
  10. Winston1

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    First off you mention 27 bills by an obscure Ga congressman. There are other including a highway construction bill, a budget and other important bills that have been torpeadoed.
    That still begs the question of why didn't Dirty Harry do something? His duty as the chief officer of the Senate (not the VP) is to transact business on behaf of the country. He DID NOTHING. HE STARTED NOTHING AND STOPPED EVERYTHING!!! He could have at least passed them to committee. Don't say he knew Mitch M would just fillabuster. He never even tried. His statagy was to do nothing and blame the reps.

    Look I never said the reps in congress or the senate have covered themselves in glory. It just pisses me off that so many lay blame on them with none to the Dems. When those of you attacking Mitt & the Reps admit BHO & the Dems have an equal share in creating this mess you will deserve some respect. Until then you are no better than the man in the theater who shouted "fire" when there was none and started a panic.
     

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