Mishandling of QB situation

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  1. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Last year Les Miles was stuck in a tough position when Ryan Perrilloux screwed the pooch. His response was to stick with one guy through thick and thin. It is my contention that this was a mistake. If two QBs are so close, you go with one guy, but spell him with the other when he is struggling to give him a chance to see things from a different perspective, for him to compose himself, to see if the other QB can bring a spark. I don't think I'm advocating the Spurrier Method, but something not too far off that. This year we have two QBs who are close in talent-level, yet we're playing the guy who didn't play last year exclusively.

    I'm confused. If you are going to stick with a guy and let him work through his lumps, why would you abandon that ship after the season is over and start the process over entirely? That makes no sense to me.

    For the Lee bashers, Lee was put into a very difficult position, one that few QBs in the history of LSU have been able to flourish under. I think you give him another chance. I've heard it said that if our mobile QB is getting sacked, how would the immobile QB be able to succeed? I think the OL is struggling and far from perfect, but Jefferson is contributing to the OL woes by holding on to the ball, not pulling the trigger. His passes often are errant. I say give the passing QB a go. I bet Lee would make quicker decisions and make more accurate passes. If he throws a pick-6, put him back on the bench for a while. But when Lee's sole responsibility is to hold the clipboard and maybe signal in plays, I think we're mishandling the QB situation.

    Then there is Russell Sheppard, but I wouldn't throw him to the wolves. I'd use him pretty much like we've been doing, except maybe a bit more and with Holiday most of the time.

    You know, before the season started I predicted an undefeated season. My reasoning was that the defense would be much improved and the offense couldn't be worse. I am very disappointed to find that I was wrong on the latter.
     
  2. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    If you have a great starter and he's getting the job done, ride that horse. We have a marginal starter who is barely effective. They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome. If what you are doing is not working, try something else. You don't have to give up on JJ totally, but he's had more than a fair shot, the first 6 games, and we have the least productive offense in the SEC.

    Lee has another year of experience, at least give him a chance.

    I predicted the tigers 9-3, based on starting a true soph who had started 2 games. He looked ok against Arky and had a great half against Tech but did not move the team in the second half. I did not assume he would always play like he did the first half of the bowl game, rather that he would play like an average of the two halfs. We've seen little of the excellent play from the bowl game. He has rolled out and thrown some very good passes and it looks like he has a very good arm, showed at times in the Ga. game. I still think Lee deserves a shot, although I don't know what the coaches see in practice, he may still be throwing ints?
     
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  3. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Therein lies your problem. Totally unrealistic expectations.
     
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  4. TigerCliff

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    The QB position due to the known problems is a concern. If you are the head coach you had to make a decision in July what to do. You sat down with the staff and all decided to go with JJ.

    If you pull JJ and put in JL what will that do? If you put in JL and he shows well in a series what happens? Play JL Play JL!!!

    You put in RS is spots in the wildtiger well that will work.

    I say stick with JJ until you have decided it just is not going to work. As a starter JL showed you slow foot work and the fact he was a turn over machine.

    I know you want to see JL because we are the bottom of the SEC on the stat board for O!

    I want to see JJ grow up and be the man. I want to see JJ break out against Auburn and Tulane. As a staff I would start thinking JL soon but not yet.

    Just my thoughts on the matter. On a personnel note I think JL is getting the rough end of the stick. We all know he was not ready last year!
     
  5. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Tell me, is expecting the offense to be improved this season too much to ask considering what we sat through last season? If the offense were improved we would have done better in our wins and stood a very good chance of beating Florida. Totally unrealistic? I wouldn't say so.

    For the record, I don't mind losing, I just mind looking like sht. I really didn't expect our offense to take a step backwards and I don't think I was alone in that totally unrealistic expectation.

    Well, I just think the coaches messed up last season when they decided to stick with JL through thick and thin, especially considering that they aren't playing him at all this season. If you're going to play Lee like you did last season, I'd think you'd take advantage of those lumps this season. But I think they should have been using both Lee and Jefferson (and Hatch) from the start of last season.
     
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    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    What did you want him to do, play the true freshman QB that still isn't ready this year as a soph? Miles big mistake was putting all of his eggs in the Perilloux basket, failing to have other QB's ready and waiting. It wasn't a mistake to try and redshirt a QB that wasn't even close to being ready to play. He had few options last year and seems to have very few again this season. It's now very obvious that RS should have been redshirted also. We need to be where we were in 2007, you lose a talent like Russell and you plug in a guy like Flynn.
     
  7. Bayou Tiger

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    "Expecting" to go undefeated in the SEC is not realistic. "Expecting" to go undefeated with a young quarterback is off the hook.


    I agree with you here though I don't know what they were seeing at practices, etc. so I have to defer to the coaches on that one. Based on what I'm seeing so far, I'm not sure they were completely wrong.

    All in all, still great to be a Tiger fan and at least HAVING A CHANCE to win each game says a lot in itself. I know I've gotten greedy in the last few years and want to win them all even though I know it's not realistic, given our SEC foes.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Yet, you are happy as a pig in $hit with Obama's performance. :dis::dis:
     
  9. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Rather than run Lee into the ground? Yes. Bring them both along. And why did we run Lee into the ground not to use him at all this year? Was he the sacrificial lamb? Was last year just a throw away year?
     
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    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    "Expecting" is too strong of a word, but I thought there was a good chance "expecting" that the offense wouldn't be worse than last year.

    Agreed, sometimes I could use an extra brewskie.

    Oh lord, that's not true, though that would explain your attitude when Bush (brother from another mother) was in office. The Republican party will sell your ass down the river just as quick.
     

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