Militia Group Plotted to Kill Police Officer

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    That's pretty weak Red. You are using the actions of a few looney toons to demonize an entire group of people. Isn't there a word for that?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Urban myth. I don't know a single Nam-Vet who ever experienced this.

    No, right-wing crazies march in the streets to advocate putting the government in charge of a woman's medical treatment, interfering in the personal family and religious convistions of private people and their relations with their own doctors.

    Get real. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was a left-wing radical. It has nothing to do with his "roots". He met Ayers in the 90's when he was another Chicago professor involved in local politics.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Hey, I called them right-wing radicals, which distinguishes them from other conservatives. And I compared them to left-wing radicals, not other conservatives.

    My point, which you missed, is that radicals on both sides have a lot of kooks and from time to time they think they can start a revolution and influence people with terror. It happened to the left in the sixties and it happened to the right in the nineties. It has never been effective for anybody.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    And he took to him like a tick to a possum. No one's saying Obama bombed government buildings and killed innocents along with Ayers, but he did know his history and that wasn't enough for him tell Ayers to get lost. Nope. Barry found a kindred spirit. Same with Rev Wright, Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, Cass Sunstein, Andy Stern, ad nauseum.
     
  5. Bengal Buddy

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    Red, I am amazed you made such a dumb statement. I was a student in the 60's when such groups as the Weathermen were blowing up buildings. Have you ever heard of environmental terroism? Believe me, liberals have their share of terrorists.
     
  6. HalloweenRun

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    The problem for the right is that these nut cases are the folks you see at Tea Parties, not Obama rallies. Nuff said.

    Isn't the Ayers thing a bit stale? Yeah, he did espouse violence toward the establishment, but that 50 years ago.

    Have any of you haters bothered to read any of his work on EDUCATION. Pretty good stuff, and by the way, how did the war in Viet Nam work out for the faithful followers of McNamara and that ilk???

    Yep, thought so.

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  7. Bengal Buddy

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    Apparently you missed your point too. I don't recall you saying anything about left wing terrorists in your initial statement.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The Unabomber is a tough call, his politics were all over the place. But his mission was against computer technology mostly, not to overthrow the government. Hard to place him at extreme left or right. Just a generic Kook, I'd say.

    I don't now about Ivans politics, but he was trying to get the government to fund more anthrax research, not to overthrow it. I don't think his mission was political, really.

    John Wayne Gacy? He was just a mass murderer and pervert. He was not exercising political terror.

    JIm Jones? Religious kook. Not a political terrorist either.

    About the worst violence from the radical left recently has been Greenpeace and their silly environmental protests which have damaged some property but never risen to the level of terrorism. Some Peta protesters have thrown blood at women wearing furs. Not exactly anarchy.
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So is it safe to say that right wing radicals used terror out of religious beliefs, and left wing radicals used terror from social beliefs?
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The 60's. Sure, the Weathermen, the SDS, the Yippies all were terrorists. But that's half a century ago versus what is happening now. The radical left dropped the terrorism tactic 40 years ago. You are trying to compare apples and oranges.

    And look, "environmental terrorism" is the unlawful use of force against environmental resources so as to deprive populations of their benefits.More concisely, environmental terrorism involves targeting natural resources. What you are trying to speak about is eco-terrorism, which is the destruction of property in the interest of saving the environment from human encroachment and destruction. Eco-terrorism involves targeting the built environment such as roads, buildings and trucks, ostensibly in defense of natural resources.

    What eco-terrorism has involved blowing up federal buildings, Olympic bombings, assassinations of doctors, killing policemen, and advocating violent revolution against the government?

    None that I know of. It's mostly Greenpeace damaging power plants and road construction equipment.
     

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