Miles and JL

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Considering last year, some people want to throw a guy away after 1 loss. Thats the sad part of this.
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Ok lets take a look at this from a statistical standpoint.

    Jarrett Lee:

    145 - 271 for 1884 yards, 53.2 completion %, 13TD's, 16 Int's, 8 sacks, Has played in 13 games.

    obviously the glaring fact is the interceptions. The question isn't the pick 6's because there are 10 other people that could have tackled the guy returning those picks, and really on 3 pick sixes hurt us last year, but a few of his interceptions hurt us. The question really is, did the defense put us in situations where we had to throw it all over the field. Lee threw em, but he was a red shirt freshman who was asked to lead the offense. Other downside is he has no wheels.

    Jordan Jefferson:

    127 - 218 for 1435 yards, 58% completion, 11 TD's and 4 int's, 18 sacks. Has played in 12 games.

    Has shown composure at times, and leadership at times. His stats aren't great, but they aren't terrible, glaring stat is the sacks. The question with Jefferson is, can he run this complicated offense, and will his pocket presence get better.

    You have positives and negatives with both of these guys, pick your poison. I don't think its fair to totally write Jarrett Lee off, although i was very critical of him in the past. On the flip side, i don't think Jordan Jefferson should be written off either. The best thing LSU can do, is situational, put in the player for which the situation calls. Shared duty is needed, and i think is warranted, and i also think Shep should be running the option, so a 3 headed monster kind of like the Hydra. But with the basic offense, i think Jordan Jefferson should still be the guy.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I don't want to throw him away. I just want to see more than one quarterback get a shot at delivering an offense and more than one quarterback to share the intense pressure. Jefferson should have gotten an earlier shot last year, but perhaps he wasn't ready. Perhaps Shepard is not ready either, but I imagine that Lee is so there is no reason not to get him into the rotation. Both Lee and Shepard can find another home besides LSU if they think they will never even be considered.
     
  4. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    1st off... I find it hard to believe that LSU's offense is too complicated for anyone to figure out... seeing as how we had just about one of the dumbest athletes ever to suit up for LSU football running it. 2nd... JJ doesn't need to be benched... he's done a decent job, but I think he'd be better utilized from the shotgun formation which would severely shorten his back steps to throw.
    But I also think RS and JL should see some action since at any given moment things can happen and then we're throwing another QB into the fire at the wrong time with no preparation.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    i don't think Jefferson knows where his receivers are supposed to be in those timing routes, and i think changing the play at the line of scrimmage as others have eluded to in a 5 wide set is throwing JJ off. You cannot deny that JJ looks really confused at times.
     
  6. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Its a matter of opinion, but the Team lost to UF. yea the D played better than the O, but the D wasnt perfect. Nor was the coaching on both sides. which is why I said TEAM.

    Also, my point is, Shepard stands out over Lee and JJ. Everytime he touches the ball he makes something happen. Why not let him throw? I dunno, but doesnt matter. Shepard is a winner. What Lee and JJ lack, Shepard has and I think its simply the will to WIN.

    I would think Miles would use all 3 in every game. I think the thing that holds JJ back is what happened to LEE last year. and b/c of last year is why Lee is not seeing much time.
     
  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I don't think anyone wants to throw him away, like a lot of others I just want Lee to get on the field. I think he is the better quarterback and should get a shot at redemption.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Since when? B/c if im not mistaken, about 95% of the fans, at the end of the season, said that JJ was better for the team.

    The only thing Lee has done is thrown 3 passes.

    Yea JJ has sacks, but Lee has the Ints so take your pic.

    Im not saying one is better than the other but damn. It's JJ's first season starting and his first loss.

    Try to chill some.
     
  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Pocket presence, moxie, gets rid of the ball instead of falling down in a heap. It is an opinion (sort of) but I just think he is the better quarterback. Hopefully we will get the chance to see. If JJ can't move the chains then what do we have to lose right? I think a lot of you may be surprised at the results should he get back in there.

    and I'm chilled, not trying to stir up stuff was just sayin..
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I think the point is, at least what i would like to see, is that if one or the other is ineffective, yank em, sit em on the bench and bring the other one in and see if they can do any better. Don't continue to do the same thing over and over and over. I said it in another thread and don't get me wrong i never liked the ole ball coach, but he was never afraid to make in game changes and sit his starting quarterback if they were not effective. There have been times in this season, when Jefferson just hasn't been effective and couldn't get the job done. Sit him on the bench and let him think about it. That doesn't mean his status as the starter is being stripped, it just means he wasn't effective, so you replace him with someone who could be. If it fails it fails, but at least you are making an effort instead of running the kid into the ground. This coaching staff did the same thing last year with Lee, Lee needed to be benched for a while and they refused to do it. And i am willing to bet that Jordan Jefferson wouldn't even be your starter this season had Jarrett Lee not gotten hurt vs. Ole Miss last year.
     

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