Michigan reaches out to Miles

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  1. Kal-El012

    Kal-El012 Founding Member

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    Your conclusion is off base, sir. I am speaking for myself when I say, I am looking at only one fucking team that is falling short because of it's head coach.
     
  2. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Most of this revolves around the one point many have made over and over - poor performance in the passing game. You recognize its a problem, you just want to stop talking about it and enjoy past trophies and the 80 percent stat. Is that where our points of view diverge?
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Correct the NCAA is littered with National Champions that had suspect passing games.
     
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  4. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    LOL his deffinition of close was:

    1998 Tee Martin who had 1K more passing yards than Jennings.
    1991 Washington had Billy Joe had 2271 (just so we can compare, if 2271 was 2014 numbers, that would put him at #76 in the nation making my point.....)
    1994, 95, 97 Nebraska LOL this one is best of his list. Nebraska ran the option and ran it well and STILL had as many passing yards as Jennings and had over 4K rushing yards each year.
    1992 Alabama while true his numbers are near the same as Jennings, Baker was the 65th rated passer in 1992. Jennings is close to last.
     
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  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Are you just talking 90's?
     
  6. TerryP

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    I'll have to post rankings to what? You asked, "When was there ever a NCAA football champion with a passing attack in the 90's?" Then you proceeded to answer your own question with, "Answer: NEVER."

    Just off the top of my head those were six teams in the 1990's that won the National Championship without a passing attack.

    IF this were 1990 you'd be complaining about a lot. Heck, LSU lost to Vandy that year.

    I don't disagree the game has changed; somewhat. We do have more teams with prolific passing attacks. Yet, what you're bringing up here is passing attacks, right?

    The 2012 Bama team's passing attack ranked higher than 70th for the season. 2011 was a little better, around 70th as I recall. 2010 with Auburn was in the same area. 2009's Bama team had virtually no passing threat. It was ranked close to 100th out of 120 teams. The BCSNC team Florida fielded in 2008 had a better passing attack than all four of those teams but it still was average (middle of the pack in rankings.)

    While you haven't been clear, I think I know what you're driving at.

    We've discussed quarterbacks here on more than one occasion. I've maintained recruiting that position is a crap shoot. Evaluation today, especially with the high school offenses ran in today's game, isn't easy.

    It's my opinion the ideal quarterback is a guy who is a passing quarterback that can run; not a running quarterback who can pass.
     
  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    No 90th ranked passing attacks and lower.

    Sure, we can go into the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's, etc and find low passing numbers, but that was a different game back then.
     
  8. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Listen, do you really think a better passing game would win LSU more NCs? And if so, do you really think it is reasonable to expect LSU to not be in the bottom quartile of passing teams? We're all satisfied with past trophies and an 80 percent clip. I'm not clear if we expect to have a stellar year next year (4 year cycle), but I do think it's safe to say it that when you aspire for more it just comes off as spoiled whining. We're a damn strong team, criticism is unfounded. It's not Miles fault anyway, those darn kids he recruited just don't execute well enough when we lose.
     
  9. LSUpride123

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    I was talking about the "rankings" like 90th and lower. Where LSU is averaging these past 6 years.

    2010 Auburn had over 3K passing....

    2009 Bama has 1.1k more passing yards than Jennings. If Jennings had 1.1k more passing yards, LSU would probably be in the playoffs too.

    So I am not sure how you call a 2600 yard passer "virtually no passing threat" when LSU's guy has 1460...................
     
  10. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Who said 1990's?

    You're hopping, skipping and jumping now.

    In 1998 Tennessee as a team had 2250 yards passing between Martin and Veazey: through 14 games.
    In 2014 LSU has 1967 yards passing through 12 games.

    The math: UT averaged 160 yards per game.. LSU is averaging 163.

    You bring up Washington here. That's answered with the numbers you just read. Now, you're going to disqualify Nebraska because they had a powerful running game?

    Look behind you. You can see your steps: skipping.

    Everything you've just posted goes in direct conflict with "NEVER."
     

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