Ironically Massachusetts is the only state that has a form of Obama Care and it is clear that they said no. Don't get too excited here, this was only one shot. We have to take our government back in November or we will still end of with socialism. It will be interesting to see if Obama will move closer to the center but I doubt it. I think he is a radical leftest who trys to govern Chicago style, gangster, he will threaten anyone or do what he has to do.
Its really sad that you throw around buzz words like this and have no clue of what they actually mean or how to apply them.
Never going to happen though. At least when you have one party in control, **** will get done (appears to only be Republicans though). Now, will the right thing get done, we won't know until we feel the sting from it or not later on. But politicians these days have proven over and over and over again, its not about getting things right, and its not about doing what is best for this country, right and left all they are concerned about is making their contributors happy and that is it. But....... The Democrats just flat out suck. If they controlled 100% of the house and congress, nothing would get done. Just going to be more of the same in my opinion. I will give it to the Republicans, they may be totally wrong, (at least thats what i think for the most part) but they work together and they get **** done.
You are right the Dems do suck, but lets be honest. It was never a majority to begin with, Lieberman and other guys like Nelson would always sink any majority. Also, Dems have no backbone, when it comes to legislation. Republicans are masters at ramming shyt down people's throat and not giving a damn. Dems not so much. Like you said republicans work and stick together.
It's not just that dems have no backbone; if it wasn't for repubs this healthcare crap would have already been shoved down all of our throats. The problem with the dems is the elitist mentatlity, the "we're looking out for the common interest as long as it doesn't apply to me" attitude. The democrats in the House are their own worst enemy, especially when someone like Pelosi is calling the shots. The party leadership needs to come to grips with the fact America isn't Hollywood, San Francisco or Chicago. If they took a moment to come down off their pedistal and actually listen to what the American public is saying, they might actually be able to work something out. Instead, they surround themselves with people who think, act and socialize in the same circle as them and conclude everything is A-OK. Or, their personal favorite, blame Bush.
It has nothing to do with any of that. Republicans are just as much Hollywood, but Wall Street Elitist as well. Polls show at least half of the country want somekind of health care reform, so lets not make that the issue. Republicans dont want it because of the money and contribution they get from big insurance companies and other big businesses. So dont try to shovel bs to me, way smarter than that. Dems went about this the wrong way and they never had a majority to begin with. Dems screwed the healthcare bill up royally, just to say hey look we got something done, now continue to vote for us, while ignoring the fact that the bill didnt meet the needs of what people want. Example being tort reform and more health insurance co-ops.
The Dems didn't need the Repubs to pass a healthcare bill. The Repubs had nothing to do with it, no matter what anyone thinks. The Dems couldn't pass gas collectively.
It's impossible not to make healthcare the issue; it was the issue in the Mass. election, along with national security. Believe me, I'm not making this up or attempting to shovel anything to you because, as you say, you're smarter than that. But if you think democrats aren't seeking to gain from other interests and big business financially, then you may not be as smart as you think you are. You are correct in the respect tort reform was not something the dems would cave a bit on, especially since trial lawyers make up a great % of the democratic party, and the co-ops. Besides the h/c bill just being plain bad, what tipped the scales was the back room dealing and payoffs in an attempt to get the bill passed (Nelson, Landrieu, and the labor unions), and the lack of "transparency" in the debate. Based on some of the things Coakley said, she ran a pretty piss-poor campaign. She certainly didn't get any help from the closed-door sessions in DC. My guess is she and her staff really thought there was no way she could lose. But in-party bickering and her open support for Hillary hurting BO's feelings is what doomed her. That and saying there were no more terrorists in Afghanistan and calling Kurt Schilling a Yankees fan.
I agree Coakley ran a poor campaign, but credit Brown for running a really good campaign at the sametime. I understand as well what kind of financial gain Dems get from major industries. I also agree that the backroom dealing had alot to do with the failure, but that just enhances my point, Dems never had a majority and the backroom deals prove that point. They dont have a backbone its that simple. No matter if you think I am smart or not, your defense of repubs is just as bad as you blaming Dems here. I am guilty of it as well, I have defended Dems, but I just cant anymore, its ridiculous, as your defense of repubs.
