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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    Correct. The words used have literally nothing do do with it. You can use the most proper English ever and say things that are far more offensive. People pretend the words themselves cause offense, independent of context, because people are miserable cowards. The only way to help those miserable cowards is to remind them that words don't hurt.
     
  2. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    This coming from the guy who is worried about his mom reading his posts.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    now im really confused.
     
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    I believe my point is that context is relevant. Offense has nothing to do with the words used, but the intent.

    A British person smokes fags. It isn't offensive because context is relevant. Whena religious person opposes equal rights for gay folks or favor the bible, a book of mureder and slaveryt, perhaps that is more offensive because of intent. It isn't about words used.

    Kyles point was not relevant, i didn't understand the relevance of his point, which is what I just said. I explained before about when I owned the motorcycle and I kept it from my family, but I don't think Kyle understood the point.

    Also mastermind I wasn't serious I was facetious earlier when I asked if using the words coon ass and prairie whatever were appropriate. Of course they are fine. Words don't hurt. It's meaning and context. If I went skydiving I wouldn't tell my dad, not because words hurt, but the actual fear it would cause hurt. And not from the words, but from actual perceived risk.
     
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    I get this, you have made this point before and I agreed then and now.
     
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    Yeah it's like Dave chappelle he got a lot of flack about the words he used, and he is black and a pioneer in speaking about race in a way no one else will. And it didnt matter what he said, it was just words, and people were angry. And mark twain wrote the greatest piece of lit ever put to paper, and for years kids were not exposed to it because of language, and it was actually anti racist work of brilliance. And being offended is just silly. So maybe Kyle doesn't agree, and his logic is that I can't sleep at night because my dad is i terrible health and he doesn't need any stress. It's not a valid point, as I expressed with great fervor above. But that what you get, because as I mentioned before most people are worthless fucks that worship bullshit and can't be bothered to think about anything for a fucking second.
     
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    honestly, i took me a long time to learn this.
     
  8. martin

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    Racism and word usage and how and why people get offended is a fascinating topic. Particularly in New York. Like people hate each other for so many reasons and its pretty fun to track. Jews and Arabs, English and Irish, blacks and Koreans. Koreans and everyone, blacks and whites, Japanese and Chinese is a huge one. And Turks and Armenians ( they are still pissed that obama sold them out on the aremenian genocide thing)and Serbs and whoever, it's great fun really. For the most part they have way better reasons to hate each other than run of the mill whites and blacks, because their killing sprees were far more recent.

    I mean like the extent to which Arabs hate Jews, it's shocking. And Indians, they are not fucking around when they tell you Pakistanis are no good. As a white American fellow its odd, nobody really hates me, don't think I would mind if they did. One time a drunk Mexican came up to me and slurred " you are no better than me!" And I hadn't even said anything ! It was awesome.
     
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    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    I understood your point and disagree with you. Coincidentally, I owned a motorcycle in college and didn't tell mom and dad because "I didn't want them to worry". Actually, it was because I knew they were against it and they were still paying most of my bills. After they found out, mom, dad and I had a long talk. The lesson I learned was that they would rather I be honest with them. They would rather be worried about me, but have respect for me as being truthful and honorable by not hiding things from them, than the other way around. They don't always agree with the decisions I make, but I don't hide my life from them either.
     
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    thats lovely but my dad has health issues that require the absolute minimum of stress as ordered by his docs. so its misleading to say i am a guy that doesnt want his mom reading his posts. i am trying to keep my dad from stress, which is genuinely bad for health, and my dad is geniunely not healthy and tends to deal with stress poorly. your parents said they would rather you be honest and they can worry. mine did the opposite. they told me directly they do not want to know about risky stuff. they freak out when i go camping in the winter. perhaps you think i should call them up and tell them when i engage in risky behavior, like when i drive a car, which is really risky, and explain to them why it is dangerous? they have asked me not to do that. i do what they say.

    i will give you another example. when september 11th happened, my dad was playing golf. he knew i went to the wtc every day. when it was on the news, my mom called the course. they sent a guy sprinting on a golf cart to find my dad, to catch him and tell him i was ok before he had to see the news and worry. it was better for him that he didnt see any news until it was delivered to him in a way that was better for his health. we could celebrate honesty all day, but the fact is telling my dad what was happening before it was smart would have been terrible for him. do you think it would have been better for him if his pals told him earlier of thre danger so he would have had 10 minutes or whatefver of terror? when my dad has a heart condition?

    so when i say that people should concentrate on meaning rather than getting angry about which words, be it coon ass or fag or whatever other slur, thats not a relevant argument you made agaisnt my point. you made that point mainly because you are both stupid and do not listen. your point had nothing to do with what i was discussin.
     
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