LSU's Offense Last Night

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  1. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Lots of discussion about the gameplan. Thought it'd be useful to have it broken out a bit.

    Bear with me - points to ponder at the bottom, but worth scanning the series if you like to deal with facts.

    1st Series:
    r, r, p, 1st Down;
    p, r, p, 1st;
    r, r, 1st
    r, r, p, TD

    2nd Series:
    p, r, p, punt

    3rd Series:
    r, r, r, 1st
    r, p, r, punt

    4th Series:
    r - TD

    5th Series:
    p, r, p fumble

    6th Series:
    p - TD

    7th Series:
    p, r, 1st
    p, p, interception

    HALFTIME

    8th Series:
    p, 1st
    r, r, fumble

    9th Series:
    r, r, p, punt

    10th Series:
    r, p, r, punt

    11th Series:
    r, r,p 1st
    r, r, 1st
    r, r, p 1st
    p, r, p, punt (holding + intentional grounding)

    12th Series:
    p, r, p punt (holding + illegal sub)

    13th Series:
    r, r, r, fumble (had a first down)

    OVERALL:
    • LSU had a passing play in the first two downs of every 4-down series leading up to a punt.
    • There were 4 series that ended in four downs with a punt. Of those 4, there was only one that ran on both the first two downs, and 2 of the four had 2 passes before the punt. 2 of those 4 were impacted by big penalties.
    • The only series that did not include at least one pass ended in 1st downs or a turnover (after gaining first down yardage).
    • LSU passed on first down 9 out of 22 "4-down series". 41% of the time, LSU passed on first down. 7/14 in the first half; 2/8 in the second half.
    • In the first half, LSU passed on 14 of 29 plays (48%). In the second half, LSU passed on 9 of 23 plays (39%).
    • LSU threw for 2 TDs and rushed for 1 TD.
    Just for fun (sorry if this pizzes anyone off), comparison's to Bama's outing on Saturday, for obvious reasons.
    • Bama had a passing play in the first two plays of each of the 3 punt series
    • Bama had 2 series that went 3 downs and a punt. None of them had runs of both first and second down.
    • Bama passed on 1st down 19 of their 36 "4-down series", or 53%. First half was 61%, second half was 44%.
    • In the first half, Bama passed on 17/34 plays, or 50%. In the second half it was 13/36 plays or 36%.
    • Bama rushed for 4 TD and threw for 2.
    Is LSU a three yards and a cloud of dust offense?
     
  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    How about Shepard was MIA in the 2nd half?

    Draw up a chart of that.

    Bandit, there is no way in hell you can defend our offense from last night. It was unacceptable.
     
  3. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I didn't defend anything. I just put the facts down. I'd be interested in your analysis.
     
  4. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Since you asked, Shep was the target in 5 plays out of 29 plays in the first half, or 17%. He was the target in 3 out of 23 plays in the second half, or 13%. Not really a huge difference and about average for the team. LSU just didn't run many plays because of penalties and...well, you know the drill.
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Are you complaining about the execution or the playcalling? Or both?
     
  6. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    A HUGE issue with the playcalling is that LSUs personel are not built for the zone read. The linemen can't zone block, Jefferson can't make the read, and the backs simply aren't quick enough.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    So, what? Quit running the ball?
     
  8. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    Try reading, dick. I said the ZONE READ. An offensive coach has to be able to adjust his playcalling to his personel. LSU is build more for an I-pro scheme, but since Miles doesn't recruit fullbacks, they would be better going from a one-back set, using angles and pulls to open holes.
     
  9. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Founding Member

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    My 2 cents, I think we looked rusty, BUT I saw the good and I saw improvements.

    I cant defend the fumbles, but take away the fumbles and those 2 critical holding calls, ITS CHRISTMAS IN BR and you guys know it
     
  10. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I would say that Russell Shepard and Jordan Jefferson are pretty good zone read backs, so is Richard Murphy. And LSU's line is plenty capable of zone blocking. So, I think you're wrong here - LSU is not built specifically for the I because LSU has plenty of talent that can fill both roles.

    I believe LSU recruited Dominique Allen and Brandon Worle, and actually Kellen Theriot was pretty much always going to be tried at FB. So, I think you're wrong. But wait a minute - you just said, in the same sentence that LSU is built for the I-pro scheme, yet LSU doesn't recruit fullbacks. ??

    I'm beginning to think you might have an agenda...
     

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