LSU targets Arkansas Commit

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  1. Milesthebest

    Milesthebest Veteran Member

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    LOL!! You're kidding right? First, did you not see Lee in the 1st Alabama game. The LSU WRers read the coverages properly but Lee in his 5th year at LSU has still not found out how to determine where the LBers and Safeties will be in coverage and while the WRs ran to the best area, Lee threw it right into the teeth of the coverage. He CAN NOT read defenses. Why do you think his INTs were down this season? It is because LSU OC took away the middle of the field as an option to throw passes...stuck to the sidelines and the deep balls. With Kentucky, you can accept that. With Auburn's poor defense, you can accept that. Against Alabama, you are going to get cooked and that is exactly what happened to Lee in the 1st game. I guess if one wants to admit insanity (the repeating of an action hoping for a different result) then yes, Les Miles could declare himself insane and put Lee in there to throw yet more INTs like he did in the first Alabama game. If you remember, one of the INTs was returned to the LSU 5 yard line but LSU got a huge break when a stupid Alabama player made a block in the back that wasn't even necessary. If that doesn't happen, my prediction is Alabama scores after that INT. The LAST people on the planet earth I would listen to are T-Bob Hebert, Bobby Hebert, and Russel Shepard. None of the 3 have shown the slightest tendency of EVER having the brain power to coach a football team...now or in the future. The ONLY QB LSU could have put in that might have made a difference would have been Mettenberger but that option went out the window when his playing time was so limited during the regular season. Miles kept in the ONLY QB of the two that had a remote prayer of winning that game UNLESS you think that Lee could have played the OL. Because LSU didn't lose that game at QB...they lost that game by getting dominated along the LOS (I'm talking of course when LSU had the ball...LSU obviously wasn't beaten on the LOS when Alabama had the ball). And let's keep the record straight. NONE of what I said above is ANY endorsement of Jefferson at all, BUT between the two, I give Jefferson enough of an edge to know that Lee was not the answer in that game. They lost that game regarding QB when Zach Lee signed with the Dodgers. That guy would have started probably the last 1.5 years at LSU.
     
  2. Milesthebest

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    LSU has 2 SR TEs and 2 JR TEs. Maybe to call them TEs is a stretch but to take 3 TEs in a class is not right IMO IF you are going to keep them at TE. Let's scroll ahead to the start of the 2013 season. IF LSU were to sign 3 TEs and of course have 2 SRs ones (current juniors Dickson and Joseph), that makes 5 TEs on scholarship...are you kidding me? You have 85 total scholarships and you have IMO the second least important position on the offense with 5 of those 85 scholarships! At most IMO, you should have 4 and probably really only 3. Think of it another way. You have 22 offensive and defensive positions. If you divided them evenly and didn't even account for punter, place kicker, etc. you could not even divide 22 into 85 and get 4 (close I will admit but still not 4 scholarship players per position). And LSU would have 5 at TE, which once again IMO is close to the least important position on offense? Thanks but no thanks IMO!
     
  3. SaintSlidell

    SaintSlidell How bout them Tigers! Who Dat

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    Lee threw all over the middle all season. In the first bubba game we had to watch Les's favorite kick the man in the head idiot come in and do nothing. Ok! I will bring in the QB that has done all the work for us, in COLD. Great game for Lee? No---- a fair chance? No!

    Nothing wrong with our TE's! Maybe you can do a little more math and prove no points what so ever. Classic!
     
  4. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    I still feel bad about that NC game. We just got beat. Bama wanted the game more than us...we had everything to lose by playing Bama again. I believe that Bama absolutely didn't want to give us 30 days to prepare and play best 2 out of 3 for the same reason. I believe we will beat them badly this year.

    As far as TE's go, we may see "attrition" at that position soon. I figure the coaches know more than me about their abilities. Plus, we're pretty stacked at a lot of positions now and this year is our chance to load up at TE because next year we may have to load up at some other position and won't be able to sign a few TE's.
     
  5. Milesthebest

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    Guy, Lee did NOT throw all over the middle all season. That is BS and a bald-faced LIE! No wonder you know squat about LSU football...you aren't even watching the games. Lee threw to the sidelines and threw deep from sideline to sideline. But nooooo, Lee did NOT throw over the middle unless it was a bomb. And I hate to give you facts, but it was NOT Lee who led LSU to all those victories...it was the defense, special teams, turnovers caused, and the running game. LSU was near the bottom in the SEC in yards passing with Lee or Jefferson quarterbacking and also near the bottom of the SEC in yards per pass attempt which means that the passes LSU attempted and completed were nothing passes. Lee screwed the pooch in the Alabama game during the regular season. You can act like Lee is some great QB, he is not! BTW, neither is Jefferson but he is better than Lee.

    "Nothing wrong with our TEs"? Seriously guy, are you on drugs? One thing is for sure...you are going to go on IGNORE! No need to see your incompetent messages anymore. Go get a room with Jarrett Lee! BTW, on the math issue, I tried to keep the math elementary school, just for you! One thing about you on IGNORE, I will miss out on your delusional messages!
     
  6. Milesthebest

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    Steve, what people don't mention is who controlled the first game? Was it LSU? Nope, not by a long shot. Who had more first downs? Alabama. Who had more yardage? Alabama Who had by far the most time of possession? Alabama The bottom line is that Alabama missed what 5 or 6 FGs, most of which were NOT long ones. Then add in the Reid INT which could have easily been 1st and goal at the LSU 1 and then the stupid, unnecessary block in the back by the Alabama defender on one of Lee's INTs and there was another 1st and goal that Alabama blew. So my opinion is much different than yours. Alabama didn't want the game more than LSU. Alabama had a better team than LSU. BTW, that is not just my opinion...who was favored in the game by like 3 or 4 points? It was Alabama. Did the Vegas boys know somehow that Alabama wanted the game more than LSU? Doubtful...they did what Jesse Palmer did. Palmer picked LSU to win the NC at the beginning of the season, picked them to win the first Alabama game, but Palmer said "I have looked at the 1st LSU-Alabama game about 5 times. There is no way I can pick LSU to win this game". IF LSU had played Alabama 10 times last season, Alabama would have won about 8 of them. The only way LSU could beat Alabama was the way they did the first time...special teams and some luck. But when you look at the two games, LSU scored how many TDs in 8+ quarters? 0! That is NOT the statistic related to wanting the game more than us. It is the statistic of having the LOS dominated by your opponent when you have the ball. Alabama didn't want the game more than LSU; Alabama simply was the better team.

    You see attrition at many positions...saw it clearly at DB this past off season and almost saw it at WR (remember Shepard and Boone both threatened to leave LSU early). I see no evidence that Stokes and Skinner are all world by any stretch. Skinner's list of offers isn't impressive...Stokes didn't even have a list that I saw. I personally like Stokes OK and with the poor talent at TE right now and this guy being a JUCO, I can definitely see why they offered Stokes.
     
  7. asignupe99

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    I'd buy that argument if it weren't for the fact that we had SIX TE's on scholarship last year...Peterson, Dickson, Joseph, Jacobs, Edwards, and Clement. It appears this year we'll five with Gordon, Dickson, Jacobs, Edwards, and Clement. So he's looking to lose two and add three. That appears to be par for the course. Maybe some of those guys are not on scholly's. I don't know. But with our heavy run packages and our lack of height at the receiver position, I really like the idea of having big bodies pass catchers...IF we use them right.
     
  8. stevescookin

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    What people fail to mention is LSU scored more points than Bama did that day. That matters to me a lot more than who was better on paper.

    We had the better team that day.
    They had the better team that day in the championship game.
    I still say they wouldn't have wanted to play us a third time...because, like them, we'd have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

    The difference those two games was in the coaching box more than on the field.

    Saban sucked the first time.
    Miles sucked the second time.

    Poor coaching both times was more important than anything else.




    Thank God both games were well officiated and the refs were not a factor.
     
  9. SaintSlidell

    SaintSlidell How bout them Tigers! Who Dat

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    Milesthebest ---- You sir are a Loser! Oh no am I being ignored. I will try not to lose any sleep.
     
  10. Milesthebest

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    Wow, I forgot about Dillon and all are on scholarship. That means in 2013 unless someone leaves the program early (certainly not for the NFL draft that's for sure), signing 3 would give LSU 6 TEs on scholarship. That is insane. My prediction still however is LSU signs only 2. I understand your point about running the football but that explains only having a TE out on the field most of the time. That doesn't explain having a backup to a backup to a backup to a backup to a backup to a starter. Subtract one "backup" for 2 TE packages. :D As far as "pass catchers" who are those at TE? I have seen none of these guys prove to be a reliable target even when the pass is thrown right to them...and yes, there were some. I remember Clement dropping a couple last season right in his hands.
     

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