LSU Softball

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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    disability? if it was that bad she wouldnt be able to do it in the first place. try to bench 225 1000 times. your body tells you not today. im guessing throwing a softball isnt going to ruin you. may not be great for a rotator cuff or shoulder or whatever but not overly dangerous.
     
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    uscvball Founding Member

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    You are proving absolutely nothing. Out of all the pitchers, all the pitches, all the games played, you are still focusing on exceptions, not the rule.

    And yes, I can also provide you stats from a friend of mine who is a local pitching coach. He coaches over 30 girls and when I told him the 2000, he laughed.

    Cheney, Ryan, Cadore, Oeschger, Wakefield, Tiant, Johnson....all baseball pitchers who have recorded high pitch counts at one time or another. That doesn't make them the standard.
     
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    uscvball Founding Member

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    I agree with that. Like I posted earlier, injuries occur when the body gets tired and the mechanics break down. Maintaining form is the single-biggest prevention for injury.

    I am also willing to bet that over the course of several innnings it's easier for batters to adjust to a softball pitcher than a baseball pitcher despite the shorter time to see the ball. Once you know the release and the top-end speed, and a pitcher slows down, she is toast. The pitchers who have success will have the full repetoire of pitches, but they typically have a wicked fast ball and one other pitch that is their signature. It could be a change-up, rise, curve, drop....something that makes them successful.
     
  4. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I don't know about the others but Nolan Ryan never pitched more than 200 innings in a season until he was 25 and his body was fully mature. Ryan also had a pitching motion that was perfect as far an putting minimum stress on his arm, wrist, elbow and shoulders. I don't think he ever even spent any time on the DL.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Bullshit I'm proving exactly what I said was a fact. You just can't seem to comprehend it. I said it happens, I never said it happens more often than not, that would be stupid because not every pitcher is a starter and not everyone is Ricketts. What I said was pitch for pitch underhand is far less strenuous, and it's a natural motion and there have been cases where pitchers have thrown copious amounts of pitches in a week, weekend, and day. I have proven that time after time after time. Now maybe the part where the arm is above the lower back in the windmill isn't natural but from there are parts where it is natural.
     
  6. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    eye level is more important than velocity once you can throw hard enough. softball pitchers need to make the batters much more uncomfortable. they're way too on top of the plate than if i was coaching or pitching. i still think the bases are too close but that adds to the speed of the game i suppose.
     
  7. 65Grad

    65Grad Maturity is Overrated

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    I have a good friend who was a world class fast pitch softball pitcher. He played in a number of national tournaments. Probably threw hundreds of thousands of pitches in his career. Has had his right shoulder and right hip replaced. That many reps of anything can't be good for your bod.
     
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    That's why I mentioned the release point. Whether the palm is up or down, fingers showing or not, etc. Some girls have so much motion, it's easy to get visually distracted. The best way to create discomfort is to get ahead in the count right away. Nothing better than 0-2, then you can throw garbage and the batter has to protect.

    The base path distance does add to the speed and it facilitates a small ball approach. If you lengthen the distance, then slapping becomes overdone I think. Softball batters have the ability to really control their bat. Placement works.
     
  9. TerryP

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    Auburn has a pitcher this year, Walters, that Meyers changed her routine completely when he took over the program. While her ERA isn't among the top in the SEC, it's improved. That improvement is largely credited to Meyers having her change her pitching motion quite often: sometimes several times with the same batter.
     
  10. Tiger Exile

    Tiger Exile Long time lurker

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    Baseball players do it too...doesn't make it right or healthy!
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-pi...-are-ruining-japanese-pitchers-012016897.html
    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...s-50-innings-starters-throw-700-pitches-each/
     

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