How was I not giving them credit? When tusk gets overly aggogant, it's our job to remind him how much good fortune they needed for their past 2 titles. Nothing wrong with that.
This guy makes some pretty good points. I think in 2001 LSU beat Alabama for the first time in Baton Rouge in 30 years or something like that... Alabama does play well in Baton Rouge but lets face it this aint the same LSU team of the 80's and the 90's. The days of smash mouth football witht the wing tee and wishbone styles of offense are over with. Without speed at the ends you can forget about getting out of Baton Rouge with a W. LSU and Alabama is always a great game no matter what the stakes are so I don't care what anyone says about how good any one of the teams are. When Alabama comes to Baton Rouge or LSU goes to T- Town this game is always lights out...
First, this isn't NOLA.com but it became obvious to me very early on that LSU board that many of the supposed pro-Alabama or anti-LSU fans were ironically not associated with either school. Many of them were Toolamers which you could tell because every once in a while they would slip up on posts. And hey, since Toolame doesn't have a football program anymore, they have a football program still?.... sorry my error. On the "greatest football program has ever seen"???? Is there a GOOFY gif I can use here. OU won what 54 games in a row in the Wilkerson era. Didn't USC win like 25 in a row or so not that long ago? LSU beat Alabama last year at THEIR place although I considered Alabama the better team. Perhaps also what has been forgotten was the 2009 UA-Tenn game when our boy Lanie Kiffin was HC there. That was a NC Alabama team and Tennessee had a very makeable FG blocked on the last play by that fat NG that Alabama had or Tennessee wins that game. Tennessee (7-6) was a very, very medicre team and lost 12-10. IMO, Alabama is NOT a historically great program, not even close. BTW, you know how every year just for debate, people bring up at the end of the bowl games "is this the greatest team of all time." Last year, I heard NO ONE even attempt to bring up the Alabama team as such. You lose a game at home in the conference...uh no, you are not a great historical team. You do NOT even win your own division in the SEC and don't even play in the SEC title game....c'mon!
Some relatives of my sister-in-law have gotten in arguments about Miles trick plays, etc. IMO, the clueless one of them has said, 'Miles is just lucky on those gambles/trick plays." Fortunately, the other one says what I would have said. "Uh, you realize that 90% of these trick plays work when anywhere else it is probably less than 50% and this has been going on for like 6 years. That isn't luck...that is seeing things in film and practicing those plays." A further note on that. Remember the huge association to luck by announcers when LSU pulled the fake FG against Florida 2 years ago when the ball hit the field and Jaspar caught it in stride. It was then later compared to a similar Boston College play in a bowl game which did NOT work because the toss was just as bad and hit the turf and didn't take "a true bounce". Sounds like LSU was lucky right? Uuuuuuhhhh, not really. If you look at that play closely, Helton I believe it was threw a perfect spiral toss parallel to the ground. The BC holder tossed the ball end over end that ultimately hit the turf. Both led the kickers too much. Wonder what the physics are of an object hitting the ground in a uniform, controlled, parallel manner vs the expected behavior of that same irregular shaped object tossed haphazardly and hitting the same surface? Oh wait, I know the answer and that explains why LSU got a true bounce and BC did not. For the record, it was Florida that was VERY LUCKY! LSU eventually scored on the Lee to Toliver pass in the corner of the end zone, but Jaspar scores EASILY instead of getting a 10 yard gain for a FD. IF the ball doesn't hit the ground, the ONLY player that could tackle him would not have nicked his ankle to bring him down...he wouldn't have touched him in fact.
In your opinion, what qualifies as a historically great program? I would prefer the attributes a team possesses to qualify, if you will please.
Au contrair, mon ami. I have great suspicion you do know what qualifies as a historically great program. In his eyes? 'Tis un puzzle.
An abundance of stupid posts or flames make it for sure. Having 15 seconds free to make sure you can post to the forum doesn't quite rise to that level.
1) Long winning streaks with MULTIPLE CONSECUTIVE NCs 2) Not squeezing into NC games via the backdoor like Alabama did last year for example 3) Concensus ranking of #1 each preseason etc, etc, etc. Like I said, Alabama not remotely close with 2 NCs in the last 3 years when Florida did the same thing less than a decade ago. And before 3 years ago, when was the last Alabama NC? Wasn't Gene Stallings the coach? I didnt' look it up but I believe he was. Nope, not remotely close.
