LSU odds to take the SEC

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  1. Milesthebest

    Milesthebest Veteran Member

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    What is remarkably lacking from Alabama fans is the realism that they were incredibly LUCKY to even be in the NC game. I have said several times here that I thought Alabama had the best team in the country last season. But that doesn't change history...they LOST on the scoreboard to LSU in the November meeting AT HOME! The incredibly lucky part is there is NO WAY that Alabama is even a thought for the NC game if Okie State doesn't lose fairly late in the season to a mediocre at best Iowa State team. Alabama would have gotten 0 votes for #2 except for those incredibly biased for Alabama had Oklahoma State not lost that game. And BTW, obviously I think Alabama is much better than Oklahoma State but rarely do you get a second chance...Michigan and Ohio State played that classic game a few years and they didn't have a rematch. To be a very good team is within your control but clearly Alabama had to root for team(s) to lose near the end of the season. Hardly the mark of a great champion.
     
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  2. TUSKtimes

    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    Just don't hate LSU and no way do I let that affect my appreciation for different fans. I haven't been able to post on a lot of subjects this summer, being so busy. And taking the SEC grudge match national, sure charged up everyone's passions. I enjoy everyone's point of view that doesn't send all citizens of that state to trailer park purgatory. I'm actually looking forward to TigerCliff soon making his optimistic picks. But I think more than anything, it's just time to watch some football.
     
  3. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Dude, are your forgetting 2007?
     
  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    asterisk and even better when pronounced that way.



    correct. if they cant beat their chests now, they never will.
     
  5. Milesthebest

    Milesthebest Veteran Member

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    Are you talking about a mediocre Pitt team beating West Virginia to put LSU in the title game in 2007? Sure, that's fine. Then I will bring up 2003 when LSU was about 7th in the BCS standings with 2 weeks to go and several teams lost to put LSU in that game also. I will point out that there is level of luck though that puts a team already beaten by one team in a rematch NC game. I will also point out that LSU made the SEC CG games both of those years and had to play an extra tough game. Alabama sat at home and didn't even have to play that game against Georgia. I understand your point about 2007 and of course mine about 2003, but the planets aligned in 2011 season for Alabama...OSU loss to ISU...rematch game...not having to even play in the SEC CG, etc.
     
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  6. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Glad you agree with me. If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass every time he hopped.
     
  7. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Like us losing to Arky in '07 and relying on WV? Or in 2004 when Fresno/Hawaii/Notre Dame...forget all the chips we needed to fall in line, and did. Luck is always part of any championship at some point in the season. You' ve heard the cliche' about having to be good...AND lucky.
     
  8. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    It just doesn't apply if it's Bama.
     
  9. Tiger_fan

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    while we certainly live in an era for Bama fans to be beating their chests, tooting their own horns etc...an LSU forum certainly isn't the place for that (hell, I've heard that Tidefans.com has decided a while ago to ban all LSU fans, and one actual Bama fan I know got banned from there because he said just a few polite things about LSU)

    however, from what I've seen, the regular Bama fans here behave themselves for the most part (or at least in recent memory), and if they don't we go off on them. but, except for their immature outbursts, it is nice having the Bama regulars that have been here a while, because they do like to talk football (and do so much better than most of the people here that hold themselves out to be LSU fans, which judging by their comments or lack thereof... I'm sure a good some of them really aren't LSU fans and are just trolling us)

    but yeah, the Bama program is a ridiculous machine right now with the talent they pull in every year and how they do in the draft every year

    they are virtually unstoppable. at the end of last season, some fellow LSU fan here said he thought the current Alabama program is the greatest program that college football has ever seen. My first instinct was to argue with him, but that actually might very well be true. look up the talent they pull in every year, and the talent they pump out every year, it is insane, a whole level above us (and we are currently at least a top 30 all-time program, at least since WW2...but I'm still researching that)

    yet, we have for the most part made valiant stand after valiant stand against them, even beating them twice in the 4 years since Alabama went beast-mode (with both victories coming under the arm of a young LSU student named Jordan who is reviled by a good portion of the Hitler/Retard/Traitor section of the LSU fan base)

    if I was a Bama fan, I would have a goddamn shitload of respect for the LSU football program, and I'm sure most of their sane fans do. Hell, I know Saban does based on his comments to his team on the nationally televised special I watched when he let them follow him around with cameras
     
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  10. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    When Miles was hired I didn't hesitate saying I didn't believe he could maintain the success. Looking at this record at Okie State had some weight, but more of it was placed on his statements, press conferences, etc.

    Seeing some of the decisions he made—IE: the attempts on 4th down a few years ago that were consistently succesful—did little to sway my opinion. I still didn't whole-heartedly believe he had it in him.

    Now, I'm still find myself perplexed. But there is no denying one thing.

    The record book.

    Along with the scoreboard, it proves there are a few things that matter in the end.
     

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