LSU D vs Oregon Offense

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  1. laduckfan

    laduckfan Veteran Member

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    Rotating players is great. Every team last year tried as well. Problem is when there is only 10-13 second from snap to snap, teams can't substitute. Especially in the red zone. Oregon will run the same play 6 times just to tire out the defense. The read option work on what the defense gives you. So although it's the same play, there are 5-6 different things Oregon can do out of it. That's how they can get snaps off so quickly. That's why so many teams started faking injuries. Tenn, ASU, Stanford, Cal and USC all did it to some extent.
    I don't care how good of athletes you have. If they can't breath, they can't play. Oregon scored most of it's points in the second half of games, once their opponents defense tires.
    It'll be tough against that LSU defense. Being the first game of the year, all the players will be fresh, and fired up to play. It'll be a great game to watch. Wish I could make it out to the game!
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Just watch!

    It tires out everybody, chief!

    Can you point out a single game in last ten years where LSU "couldn't breathe" in the second half? You are dreaming, amigo.

    HD television will be just fine. Bring a lot of whiskey, pal. :thumb:
     
  3. laduckfan

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    You're not getting what I'm saying, which is fine.
    I don't expect you to. No one else did either, until after the games were played. Then they understood. When you routinely run 3-4 plays a minute, the big hogs get tired. That's all that needs to happen to turn 3-4 yards gains into 10-15 yard gains.

    I'm not saying Oregon drops 50 on LSU. I think they'll score around mid-30's. Can LSU outscore Oregon is more of the question. We'll see, Amigo. :)

    Whiskey sounds good to me. I'll bring the Pendleton!
     
  4. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    Oregon's offense is generally the type that gives Chavis coach defenses fits. However, he will have had nearly 9 months to prepare for them by game time and the Barners gave him a decent blue print to work with.

    And obviously, the O has got to do their part by winning the T.O.P battle to keep the Duck offense off the field. It's not rocket science, but that will definitely help any defensive game plan.
     
  5. laduckfan

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    Fanatic: You're right. Auburn took a lot of what Cal tried to do, but they had better athletes to do it with. Nick Fairley was the difference in that game defensively for AU. We had a great O-line, but I swear he knew the snap count or something. He was in almost every play! Oregon's game plan should have deviated from running up the middle and went outside more, but that sh--- turf wouldn't allow them. To much slipping. We killed them on the stretch plays early, but to often Oregon was slipping on the cut backs. It negated Oregon's speed. If the game was played on field turf, I truly believe Oregon would have won by two touchdowns.

    9 months to prepare is forever. Most of that should be conditioning, but also getting the back ups ready to play a significant number of snaps to rest the starters. That's the key to stopping Oregon...fresh horses.
     
  6. ASD

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    Duckfan u seem like a pretty level headed fan for the most part but u have gone from throwing out tons of stats to now claiming the ducks would have won by a wide margin if not for the turf. Ur ducks are good but they lost on the field. They couldn't handle auburn. Bama was up on them 28-0 at one point. They blew that in epic fashion but were serving up a whole bunch of ass whippin in the first have. The point is that Auburn played much tougher games during conference play. enough. They lost. Woulda lost:wave: on the moon. Woulda lost in ur back yard. Hey if cam hadn't made a highlight reel run that we will see forever, then we probably would have one too. But he did. And we LOST. As did u
     
  7. laduckfan

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    ASD,

    You're right. Bottom line is Oregon lost. But watch the game, and you'll see Oregon making 10-12 yard gains on the stretch plays to the outside, then from the 2nd quarter on, they ran mostly off tackle to limited success. Oregon's bread and butter all year is to run defenses sideline to sideline (55% of Oregon's rushing plays) to wear them out. They couldn't do that, so that fatigue for AU's defense didn't kick in until the 4th quarter.

    I know... woulda, coulda, shoulda. :)
     
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  8. ASD

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    U dint tire them out in time because u couldn't. All u need to say is u played a team that was superior. Oregon is a fantastic team with a fantastic staff. But when u beat an SEC team for a trophy then u have something to talk about. I've given all the credit I am willing to give a program that is basically funded by Nike. U are not on our level on a yearly basis! That may change but not until u do it. Believe it or not I enjoy watching The ducks play but LSU will be ready. They suffer in the heat every year to get ready. Kelly is a pioneer as far the program and traing goes but Phil knight has made u competitive .
     
  9. ASD

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    I'm not a fairweatger fan. I've seen the game plenty. I'm a football fan overall. The ducks lost and cam didn't even need to do his thing.
     
  10. laduckfan

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    I wrote another post already about some LSU fans's SAYING Phil Knight made Oregon competitive. DAMN RIGHT HE DID! But in comparison to SEC schools and their donors, Oregon would rank 9th! Oregon ranks 6th in its own conference!! Sure he dropped a lot of money on the facilities. But compare Oregon's facilities to most any school in the SEC, it's the same. Knight also donated $100 million to Stanford.
    Oregon has to compete with much larger schools with 80k plus seat stadiums, which generate millions of dollars more in football revenue. All Oregon did was finally step up to the plate, and dropped some coin to run with the big boys. If the good ol' boys in the SEC (and Big 10) don't like it, tough. Oregon's just doing what the SEC and BIG 10 have been doing for decades.
     

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