LSU D this year compared to last year

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    bingo, meaning they aint there when it counts.
     
    LSUMASTERMIND, Jan 2, 2010
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  2. ThePhenom74

    ThePhenom74 Founding Member

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    The D has improved by a mile. There is still a lot of work to be done though. LSU is an extremely poor tackling team. All too often we see missed tackles. Wrapping up must be taught.
     
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  3. JayB

    JayB Never Forget 31

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    i don't care how many YARDS a defense gives up if they don't give up any POINTS. points win games, not yards. they usually go hand-in-hand, but give the guy a chance! our defense is in better shape/hands than the offense.

    it's been repeated ad nauseam in this thread by the posters who understand football, but if your defense is on the field all day long, they're going to be gassed in the fourth quarter. PSU was in the endzone/LSU territory ALL DAY LONG! the fact that they only scored 19 points is actually pretty phenomenal, i think.
     
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  4. Chase4LSU

    Chase4LSU Waiting on Mettenberger

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    While not perfect, Chavis's defense is still an improvement. In one year, he's done a decent job. I think with another year or two, we'll start to see the defense we all love to see (sacks, intercepions, forced fumbles, and so on).
     
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  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I understand playing a zone in those kind of conditions, but on there last drive we should have brought it, instead of sitting back.
     
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  6. ThePhenom74

    ThePhenom74 Founding Member

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    I totally agree with you here. Overall I do prefer an aggressive D. Especially late in the game when you know the other team is throwing. What I dont get either is playing as far off the ball as the LSU DBs were? Way too much cushion, especially when you have someone like Peterson. Peterson is at his best in bump and run coverage. He is a shut down CB, trust him. Put him on a island and use one S to help the run the other to help the other CB.
     
    ThePhenom74, Jan 2, 2010
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  7. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Lots of people keep making the "its the offense's fault the defense looks bad" argument; have made it most of the season. I understand how the two relate, but I ask you to look a little deeper. I wish I had statistics to back up what I'm going to suggest, but the LSU website does not give us average starting field position, frequency of 3 and outs, or average number of plays per drive. So you each need to run through the typical game this year in your own minds and ask yourself these questions: How often did the defense produce a 3 and out or quick turnover, and give the offense some decent starting field position? My answer is rarely. How often did the offense start drives inside their own 25 yard line? My answer is almost all of the time. You are all correct in saying the offense has to help out the defense, but it works both ways. Its not easy to drive 70, 80+ yards for a touchdown, and the LSU offense in '09 was asked to do it on most possessions. Too many 3 and outs on the offense's part did not give the defense much time to rest, but the defensive scheme of bend but don't break does not lend itself to the defense getting off the field quickly either. The points per game was a big improvement, but our offense and defense did not work well together to put our opponents in trouble, and John Chavis and his defense must accept their share of the responsibility.
     
    mctiger, Jan 2, 2010
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  8. JayB

    JayB Never Forget 31

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    it does work both ways, but the offense is in DIRE need of improvement.
     
    JayB, Jan 2, 2010
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  9. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Those are alarming stats.

    And to add to that we had 8 pick 6s I believe last year, so that's basically adding nearly 6 points to last year's PPG total. Our defense really only yielded 18 ppg last season.

    I would like to know time of possession. I would have to believe our defense was on the field much longer than last season.
     
    islstl, Jan 2, 2010
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  10. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    several posts have shown stats and areas of real improvement. that is a start. you cant expect the defense to go from stinky to #1 in all areas in one season. progress is progress. give time to build on that. if it doesnt build, then there may be a case.

    but this "next!" mentality after one year.... where does it stop? changing defensive coordinators and schemes yearly is going to do nothing but create a confused (or schizophrenic) defense. not to mention, create an environment where NO good dc wants to come here if they know they are gonna be canned after just one year even with improvement.
     
    OkieTigerTK, Jan 2, 2010
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