LSU ca Auburn game thread

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  1. Kikicaca

    Kikicaca Meaux

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    100% so far. Picking us to win this weekend. Kentucky is 5-0 just beat FLA who gave Bama the what for. LSU will win. You can't seem to find anything right with O. We beat Moo U who beat A&M yet you still find some reason to run O down. When we do win this weekend what will your excuse be? O got lucky? Kentucky wasn't that good anyway? Kentucky played poorly? Hope you are not one of the "well O got lucky in 2019 because we had Joe Burrow and Joe Brady and Aranda and CEH he really is a bad coach and should not get credit at all for 2019"

    For some reason you want me to call for O's head right now if not I am a sunshine pumper or I just cant see what everyone else sees. I don't roll that way. I will guit on O when I am convinced he has lost the locker room. Not fighting with you buddy just trying to figure out your motives.

    What's your call this weekend? I made mine what's yours?
     
  2. BornOnTheBayou

    BornOnTheBayou 2022 Masters Pick 'Em Champion

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    Reality.
     
  3. Kikicaca

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    OK Bayou let's talk reality. What will you say if we win this weekend and next? Will you face reality or will you like some here find a reason we won that O had nothing to do with? Reality is we have one SEC loss. We beat Moo U who beat A&M. We will win this weekend against Kentucky who just beat Florida. If that happens will that be real enough for you or will it be O is bad and needs to go? Reality is Florida has 2 SEC losses and A&M has 2 losses. Is it reality that we have a better record than both and maybe better than both?

    I have picked us to win but I notice you nor anyone else has stepped up to make a prediction. Let's look at reality again next Sunday morning.
     
  4. BornOnTheBayou

    BornOnTheBayou 2022 Masters Pick 'Em Champion

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    I think we will get beat Saturday. Is that good enough for you?
     
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  5. Brian

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    I don't want you to do anything other than not brag about your football knowledge while saying our defense was as good or better than Georgia's or that Cregg did a good job or any of the other nonsense you spout that is just quite honestly wrong. Verifiably wrong in fact.

    Just be honest with us and yourself.

    Either stop boasting about your knowledge when you have so many bad takes or even just admit you prefer to watch sports from an optimistic angle and you'd rather be upbeat than down on your team. I'm actually very much that way.

    Man I grew up in NOLA with the Ain'ts being mocked for having Saints gear on in my own city. Every kickoff of every game I'm hoping we win and talk myself into it. I'm also a big person on honesty and truth. I seek it out in everything in my life and so I gotta be honest with what I see. I slammed Sean Payton for wasting the best offense I've ever seen with the worst defenses in Saints history. He's turned it around.

    I wish I could say I think O can. Go back and read my takes on Jake and Daronte. Loved both hires. Still think both are outstanding coaches. There's been one singular common denominator in all this madness and terrible hires... Ed Orgeron.

    Dude I literally just wrote a long post crediting O for 2019 on here yesterday or today. (Tell me you do actually read the boards and don't just post? Ha.) He gets credit.

    All his hires he did a couple good ones..

    Kept Aranda which was obvious.
    Mickey Joseph was tremendous.
    Kept Corey Raymond also great, kinda.
    Greg McMahon exceptional.
    Joe Brady because of E.

    The I'm not so sure about these guys list:

    Took away safetiesfrom Corey for Bill Busch, bad coach great recruiter.. mixed.
    Kevin Faulk over Robinson seems good but it's an incomplete given bad rotations last year and this year is a tragedy.
    Meatball great up and coming guy and recruiter but green as a coach.
    Brad Davis just got here incomplete.
    Peetz and Daronte are unknowns still.

    The bad list..

    Pete Jenkins exceptional coach couldn't recruit for us. OLD.
    Jerry Sullivan same issue. OLD.
    Bill Johnson good coach but best days behind him another good old boy network hire like the above.
    Tommie Robinson very good coach awful recruiting coordinator oversaw DISASTROUS classes in 2018 and 2019 we are feeling right now.
    Matt Canada he literally tried to fist fight him. $$$
    Scott Linehan didn't even interview?! $$$
    Bo Pelini didn't even interview?! $$$$
    James Cregg worst coaching hire O made.. right there with Pelini but worse because it was a cancer for years in the program whereas Pelini was excised quickly.

    That's a lot of bad hires. And some massive money hires he forced the administration to eat their buyouts and hurts us getting other coaches to come here. You can't keep firing coaches after one year. That's a big reason O couldn't get anyone quality in here to save his job.

    This was off the top of my head.

    Spin that as a positive for me. Try it.

    If you were a manager and you constantly of all your big time hires only got 1 guy right (Brady) where the rest were all MASSIVE disasters (Canada, Linehan, Pelini) that the school is still literally paying for would you keep your job? Even if you won manager of the year a few years back you burn bridges doing that.

    Especially when you're always getting in trouble for carousing and the boss keeps getting calls about your behaviors around town and you keep getting the talk to settle down and yet you keep fucking up.. it's just rational you're gonna lose your job.

    It's rational that people that supported you (I bought his dang books! I was an O cheerleader!) will see you do these things and eventually realize oh this is actually who you are the other thing was an isolated deal, fuck..

    Come on man.

    Kentucky? No idea. Haven't had a chance to watch them. Know Florida was better but Kentucky made the key plays and found a way to win because they're well coached unlike us.

    Wait by your logic I could say 50 50 right.. and if we win or they win by your logic I can claim I got it right either way, yes?

    By the way that's not how that works. Saying 50 50 isn't being right. Cause it didn't end in a tie. One team clearly lost. You just avoided picking because you were scared to be wrong, lol.

    Kentucky should lose to this team.

    But I've seen this team play.

    So Kentucky should beat this team, but I'm leaning towards LSU winning.

    It doesn't matter if we do though. We won't win very many more. Maybe 3 more wins this year. O is gone. This is all just conjecture waiting to discover who the candidates are.

    I just really dislike people who proclaim themselves good at something when they demonstrate regularly that they have no clue. Just irks me. I think you get a twisted satisfaction off your contrarian ways. I think you honestly believe the stuff you put out there and genuinely shake your head laughing at us for not seeing things as clearly as you do. I really do think you buy into your own stock that way.

    It's a hell of a thing.
     
  6. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I’m not so sure about Mickey Joseph (appeasing NOLA, rotations seem iffy), Greg McMahon (there are bright spots w kickers/punters, but also some sloppiness, particularly in the return game), or Kevin Faulk (popular hire but RBs are underwhelming under Faulk).

    As far as UK, it shouldn’t even be a question. I’m not huge on predicting things, particularly not without analytics, and honestly there are quite a few other teams on our schedule we should beat. I don’t think our coordinators are bad, particularly with E helping out in the booth. If pressed though I say total 7 wins or less, and a loss to UK.
     
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  7. Brian

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    Good points.

    Kentucky game is hard to predict because the team might quit on O this week and just mail it in. Or it's possible they show up and play their hardest all season to try and save the coaches they like. Talent we should win. Competence we should lose. Motivation is who knows.

    Mickey has been arguably our best recruiter and had to learn to be the WR coach. The rotation is terrible totally agree but that seems to be a this year thing so that may well likely be PGC and or OC with the gameplan. Dunno. Faulk as coach has been good enough but his rotation last year was ugh and this year is bad too but he hasn't been coaching. Dunno.
     
  8. Kikicaca

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    Well at least you have the guts to make a prediction instead of just telling me how bad a coach O is.
    Got respect for you. You are making a prediction. Either call a toss up because you honestly don't know or we win or we lose. You are laying on the line. I don't care if O is not our coach after next week I just don't want him fired just because. We start firing coaches because we have one loss in SEC play so early in the season than we will be playing in the Toilet Bowl against Imaculate Word ever year and that's if we are lucky. You think our O line is bad? Fire O and the staff should we win this weekend and see what happens in recruiting. If it's true O has done some awful things in his personal life that hurts the image of the team and university as the rumors say then fire the SOB. If not true and we fire this guy after this weekend with one SEC loss than what fricking good coach would put his ass on the line for this school. What 4 or 5 star would want to come here for thinking if my coach losses one game than he may not be the coach I committed to the next year. Lastly speaking of Kentucky. The administration at Kentucky rode with Stoops win lose or draw for a long time. They gave him time and loyalty and now in 2021 they are there with Bama and Georgia as the 3 undefeated SEC schools.

    We will win this weekend. I won't have any excuses if we lose even if Max and Nuss get hurt and we have to play our walk on QB.
     
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  9. Kikicaca

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    Dazed and confused I am. So why no prediction from you? You obviously think O and most all his coaches suck and should be fired immediately yet you are conflicted on if we win or lose to Kentucky. Kentucky is 5-0 and just beat a team with better talent. So if you believe as you do this should be a no brainer LSU will lose to Kentucky, right?. Bayou, lsu_i-like and I all made prediction, what's yours?
     
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  10. Kikicaca

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    I am not going to answer all this. What I will say is I never predict the LSU vs Auburn game and have already told you why. I didn't predict the UCLA game either because I had no idea how good or bad we were and UCLA was an unknown as to how good or bad they were. Also they were not some East Texas State Tech Institute that would have been an easy call. UCLA was a legitimate Pac 12 team that even many in sports media predicted we would lose to.

    So instead of waiting till the Kentucky game is over lay your ass on the line now. If we are so horrible coached as you say who wins this weekend them or us? You are kind of in a trap. If you say we win than all this you have been saying is meaningless. If you say we lose and we win than how will you explain that?

    Look I believe you are a solid LSU fan but you can't seem to respect that I think it's too early to start talking coaching change. I posted here numuous times yesterday that if we lose this weekend O needs to go. What more do you want? I hate coaching changes. They are messy and if done for the wrong reasons can set your program back decades.

    Who wins this weekend?
     
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