Well, no this is incorrect. I base it on seeing it play out in front of my eyes. Inability to draw up a play coming out of a time out, not knowing when to foul, not using the clock when needed, the lost goes on. Sure every coach has bouts with these things here or there but with cjj it's chronic. Did you really just compare Jones to Coach K? You didnt really do that did you?
That wont stop all the mediocrity accepting Pumpers, Sand Headers, Cheerleaders and LSU Worshippers-Idolizers from defending him though. That's what they do. That's all that they do. Defend and make excuses for Mediocrity. They absolutely love them some Miles and Jones.
I did, and have on several occasions. Specifically, I am comparing the first 5 years of Coach K's tenure. Anywhere else, and certainly here, CK would have been run off in less than 5 years. Look it up. You know that its not the same thing as predicting CJJ will have the same success that Coach K has had. You know that I am not saying that. I am saying that at this juncture, CJJ has a better record that CK did in year 3. I love how people are now saying in 3 whole years CJJ hasn't even shown he can recruit. BS came b/c of his godfather, and Blakeney followed, so CJJ doesn't get credit for the two 5*s. All he's had is some 4 stars. In 3 years, that's all he's had. LOL. Not sure who gets credit for Sampson, and Victor. We are all passionate about LSU sports and want nothing but Ws. Sometimes there are growing pains, and the guys in charge take the heat. We'll see how it all shakes out. Who knows they may just win 4 straight, and then win the SECT, LOL!
Then you obviously don't know me sport. I was a strong supporter of Les. Over the last couple of seasons I I recognized the need to change his ways and noted it here. The 3 game swoon in November caused me to support his leaving. With the total screw up by Aleva et al I like most intelligent LSU supporters hope he turns it around and see no sense in the whining that is a continuing feature of this forum. It seems to me that most of Miles' supporters feel as I do. I haven't seen much recently only those who like me are pretty disgusted with shit like you put above. It's like your banging your head against a wall. How flat is your forehead?
I believe you, however without looking it up I will venture out on a limb and say that in that same 3 year stretch K didn't have the talent LSU did. To make my point, give coach k last years team or this one, different results? Yeah that's what I thought.
What you think is conjecture. CK has been coaching the same team for over 30 years. There is continuity in everything with that program. Right now, Coach K would likely do more w/BS than CJJ, yes, I agree. I don't know that for sure, but, like you and everyone else, I would assume that. My point is that CK took over a program as a young, up and coming coach, and shit the bed for 3-5 years. They almost ran him off. But, they hung in there, and low and behold, with continuity of talent, and coaches, and all the other details needed to run a successful, clean, talent laden, experience laden program, he has succeeded. To me, its unfortunate for CJJ that he has taken over when everyone is frustrated with and has soured on CLM. If football were at a peak, people wouldn't be on CJJs case as much. To me, CJJs situation is different than CLMs, though. CLM has been here 11 years, and the offensive woes are clearly on his lap. That is where I have finally drawn the line, too. The offensive ineptness, and waste of talent is evident. With CJJ, I just don't think he's been here long enough to say yet. To jump ship on a coach with 3 freshmen starters is premature, IMO. It may pan out that he is the basketball equivalent to CLM, but give him a chance. It all comes down to expectations, in my view. The expectations have been so high for this team b/c of BS, the overall recruiting class, and the down time for football right now. They are not meeting expectation. I get it. I just feel like commitment shouldn't be this thin. Give him 5 years, and then make changes if needed.
So, what are your acceptible expectations for this bbal program? Make the tourney every year? Sweet 16 every other year? Championships? If you think this program will ever be consistent title contenders you need to rethink your expectations. To tell you the truth, I'm happy with mediocrity for now. Sure it sucks how they are falling apart right now. Honestly, I am happy with a trip to the dance every other year. For now. It's better than what we had with the last 2 coaches. Again, he has more wins than any other LSU coach at this point in his tenure. I think that speaks volumes and warrants him sticking around a few more years to see if he can improve. In another two or three years if we have not made it back into the tourney then yes, it's time to move on. The real test is coming up. Does this team totally fold? Or do they finally show some heart and try to make some noise down the stretch? Many of you set expectations too high. I think we needed one of Martin or Mickey back this year to really make some noise. Did any of you think we would be tied for 1st in the conference as of last week? I sure didn't. I also didn't think they would suck so bad early on. Before we had a full squad. Without those early season struggles being very shorthanded and starting a ton of young guys this team is a shoe in. Set realistic expectations before the season and enjoy it when we exceed those. So again, what were your expectations before the season? For me, making the tourney was my bar, knowing we had such a young team. There's still still a lot of ball to play. It's unlikely but they can still meet my preseason expectations. If it wasn't for BS I would have been happy with an NIT bid. But he pushed up my idea of success this year.
