Liggins going Juco ?

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  1. BayouBengal014

    BayouBengal014 Founding Member

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    Even Miss. State's offense would be better for him...
     
  2. Tiger_fan

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    we took six LBs in the last recruiting class: Kwon Alexander, Lamar Louis, Deion Jones, Ronnie Feist, Lorenzo Phillips, Trey Granier. also, we took DE Danielle Hunter, who is 235 lbs, and he could possibly play LB

    as for Liggins, he's not just a QB, he's an ATH. as an ATH, he was the #1-rated recruit in our class last year by 247Sports (#93 overall in the nation, just ahead of Kwon Alexander was was #104) and the #3-rated recruit in our class last year by ESPN (behind Kwon Alexander and Vadal Alexander)

    like Russell Shepard, Liggins was a must-take recruit as an ATH, and you can try him out at QB when he gets to campus, and if you think he'll be better at RB, TE, DE, or whatever, then you move him there. it's like how when you get an academic scholarship to LSU, you only get to keep that scholarship if you maintain a certain GPA. same with football scholarships, if you don't live up to expectations, you lose your scholarship. if we don't like Liggins as a QB, we tell him he is free to stay on the team as a walk-on QB for the scout team, but that if he wants his scholarship renewed, then he's got to play RB, TE, DE or whatever (or allow him to transfer). or, if you don't like what you see from him at QB, you have the coaches sit him down, while Krag tells him he has no chance to get drafted as a QB, while our other position coaches tell him he has a pretty good chance at getting drafted as a RB, TE, DE, or whatever.

    teams do this all the time.
    --for example, look at Jordan Reed, Florida's #1 TE and their #2 returning receiver. he was recruited as a QB, they tried him out as a QB during his redshirt year 2009 and during his redshirt freshman year in 2010 (he was 26-for-46 for 252 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT in 2010... including 8-of-13 for 60 yards vs Penn State, 2-for-4 for 12 yards vs Florida State, 3-for-7 for 46 yards vs South Carolina, etc). that same year, he also had 328 yards rushing and 79 yards receiving before they decided to move him to a full-time TE in 2011.
    --and look at former Florida TE Cornelius Ingram, who was the #2 SEC TE taken in the 2009 Draft (5th Round). he was recruited as a QB, and in 2004 during his redshirt year, they used him as QB on their scout team. they weren't impressed enough with him at QB so they moved him to TE the next season.
    --and look at Trey Burton, he was recruited as a QB, they tried him out at QB, FB, TE, WR and on kickoff coverage in both 2010 and 2011, and now they have him listed as a RB

    as for QB, even if we try Liggins out at QB, and decide he's not starter-quality, we still might want to keep him at QB as a short-yard QB or as a special-package QB (wildcat, option, etc)

    for example, how Tebow was used at Florida his freshman year.
    --another example is how Oklahoma used freshman QB Blake Bell last year... Bell was #1 on OU's team last year with 13 rushing TDs and twenty-six of his 44 carries went for either a first down or touchdown.
    --another example is how Florida used freshman QB Trey Burton in 2010: he scored over a fourth of Florida's TDs, was #1 on the team in rushing TDs with 11 (the only Gator to ever have more rushing TDs as a freshman was Emmitt Smith with 13) and was #3 on the team in total rushing yards.
    --another example is how Alabama has been using the Wildcat since 2009 and how LSU has been running option packages since Ryan Perrilloux. it's like Saban says, it's an easy thing for your offense to learn how to run, while it's a pain-in-the-butt for other teams to have to practice to defend... so it's win-win...

    "We felt like [the wildcat] was an easy adaptation with the plays that we ran," Saban said. "We're probably not as sort of far along in running it, doing all the things we need to do to make it as effective as it could be. It's something that we're going to continue to work on. It gives the defense something that they have to prepare for."

    "It definitely presents a problem," he said. "I think we've learned that for a couple of years playing Arkansas and Ole Miss."

    "It creates a lot of problems. I think it creates something that the other team has to prepare for. We always have to work hard against it when we play against it. We thought it would be a good thing."

    finally, look at the schools Liggins had scholarships from: Southern Cal, Oregon, Miami, Nebraska, as well as the whole SEC: LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee, Auburn, Miss State, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vanderbilt

    and according to Rivals, each of the schools that gave him an offer wanted him as a QB, but Liggins is willing to play anywhere:

    "Each of the schools in the hunt for Liggins' services are recruiting him as a quarterback, but Liggins has the size and athleticism to play other positions should things not work out as a signal caller. According to Robertson, Liggins easily could make the transition to tight end or defensive end, and called him a "no-miss prospect."

    "It doesn't really matter to me what I play," Liggins said. "I'll be the kicker if I have to, just as long as I can play. I love the game."

    http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1280047
     
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  3. BayouBengal014

    BayouBengal014 Founding Member

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    This is all true... I just don't see him as a QB... I already know he would make a great DT. I can appreciate what you had to say about it though. Un like most of the guys in here I can level with anyone and you gave me some pretty good stuff to read. You obviously know what you are talking about....
     
  4. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Or....Liggins could come in, light 'em up and be a memorable QB at LSU.

    I wouldn't write him off at QB...you never know !!
     
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  5. FredSez

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    Agree - we want this kid now - can be nothing but a plus for the program
     
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    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

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    Interesting news item. I think most people thought his chances were pretty much 0 to ever put on an LSU uniform when he couldn't make it academically and was going to JUCO. I think his chances are still 0 whether he goes to JUCO eventually, sits out a year, goes on a mission to Malaysia ;) etc. LSU moved on with Rettig and Jennings committed. What is funny when you think about it is how the guy stood at the Oxford town square and announced his intention to go to LSU...wow, he could have saved himself some grief right there, huh?
     
  8. stevescookin

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    He'd be a good fit at Ole Miss, but I hope he comes in here as an LB or something.
     
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