Re: "Les Miles is a bad guy" (link added) To balance out competition. If there were still no limit teams like Alabama and Texas would clean up in recruiting every year. This rule was put in place because Bear Bryant used to stash 20-30 players on his bench who grew up wanting to be Crimson Tide players. With the scholly limit, it helps the talent trickle down to the bottom feeders. This, along with the increase in national TV coverage, has contributed the most to the current parity we enjoy in the NCAA.
I didn't say no limit...I said the limit should be 100, which is 25 players/year times four years of eligibility. It sounds like you're proposing legislating equality. If everyone is not equal...we'll make them equal by making up rules that hurt the better teams in order to help the little guys. It also sounds like you're afraid we won't be equal to Texas and Alabama without the rules. What I didn't say was that the injured players who get to keep their four year scholarships, if they maintain scholarship standards, should not count against the 100 limit.
And that in a nutshell is the biggest problem with sports "journalism." Who needs to be a good writer, make a coherent argument, or possess any kind of writing ability in general? All you have to do now is throw anything controversial, provocative or outright false at the wall, and if something sticks, then presto, you're a "journalist." It's the entire reason race-baiting hacks like Jason Whitlock and Jemele Hill still have jobs. It's a lazy person's approach. Why go through the work and trouble of looking up facts and establishing credibility when you can write garbage and run your mouth about how edgy you are and how many out-of-shape middle-aged guys you can knock out at the local YMCA?
You asked why the limit was put in place to begin with, and I told you the reasoning behind it. I'm sure LSU would do fine without the scholly limit, but would schools like TCU, Utah and Boise St. be where they are today if the USCs and UTs of the world never had to turn a kid down?
It's OK...I was really asking why the overall limit was 85 while the yearly limit was 25. This difference is what causes teams to pull scholarships from some less productive players to give them to more promising ones. You lose your scholarship if you're not as good as the coaches thought you were. I think that you should only lose your position on the depth chart...but not your scholarship providing you're a good student. (Hey Luke, meet you over at the golden girl thread...wow...there should really be no limit on them !!)
so if you have someone who gets complacent and doesnt want to put in the work, he should be allowed to take up a scholarship from someone who wants to work hard and contribute to the team? this is a football scholarship. they need to do well in school AND prove they want to work to earn their way on an athletic scholarship. not skate.
Re: "Les Miles is a bad guy" (link added) That's a really good point.:thumb: Why would the NCAA only allow 85 scholarships per team (which would be 21 per year over a 4-year time frame), while at the same time allowing 25 scholarships per year? Well, what if a kid that got a 4.0 every semester in high school got an academic scholarship to LSU, and then partied his butt off at LSU and got all D's and F's every semester at LSU? When I was at LSU, I had good friends that lost their academic scholarships for failure to maintain the GPA they needed to maintain to keep that scholarship the whole time they were at LSU.
I see your point, Okie. Coaches should be able to cut or dismiss players from the team for breaking rules and not trying hard...I just think that if the NCAA allows you to sign 25 players/year coaches shouldn't be put in the position of having to cut players for no other reason than to make a limit that's less than the product of the yearly total and the four years of eligibility. If a team signs the 25 players each year that are allowed, they all qualify academically, and they all perform well enough not to get dismissed...why should scholarships have to be taken from some of them if they're doing everything that's expected of them. Isn't the NCAA all about academics and amateurism? (You're right. It is about football and $$$ though)
but the thing is, 25 is the max allowed. if your team only has 20 available, then signing 25 is unfair to the kids that will eventually be cut.