Legitimate Political Discourse

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  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    right and they are ruling out candidates for jobs based on race. banning people from particular jobs purely based on race and gender seems fairly hostile.

    if denying people opportunity based on race is not racism, then there is no such thing as racism.
     
  2. Rex

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    Only if you lack the intelligence to process a situation.
     
  3. Jmg

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    well not only in that case, but i agree you are describing biden and his explicitly racist policy here. he doesnt have the intelligence to process many things, i appreciate you making that point.

    imagine you had a child and your wife was an indiginous person, and becuse your child was not the proper race they were denied an opportunity. thats the problem with you dems is you dont care about marginlaized groups.
     
  4. Rex

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    Good comedy requires a bit of cleverness that you sorely lack.
     
  5. kluke

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    The RNC is a political entity and one of the key public faces of the republican party. Job one is political optics, everything else is secondary or backroom stuff. The RNC failed badly at job one and ended up with the optics of an ugly pig. Ronna's statement was not a special effort to clarify. It was part of a frantic effort to put lipstick on her pig. Which was my first point. The second point is the dems will plaster the pig face in front of us every chance they get. Of course the repubs would do the same if the roles were reversed.

    There's really no difference in the two parties when it comes to political integrity, whoring for votes, and money. They are like beauty pageant contestants. They spend a lot of time and money to look like the most beautiful so we will pick them. But at some point we discover it was all a fantasy and their shit stinks.
     
  6. Jmg

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    right which is why we can ignore their optics and missteps and make a rational decision based purely on policy. in general republican policy is better for marginalized people.

    regarding this censure or whatever, who cares. jan 6th was not important and changes our lives none. the dems generally want to grow the govt to a dangerous size. and since libertarians never win, the only hope we have is republicans, who dont want to grow the gov quite as much. dems want to control higher ed funding, health care, pretty much everything.

    also dems want to destroy our capability to produce our own energy. this is hugely destructive.
     
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  7. mctiger

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    A highly intelligent African American woman I work with would disagree with her. We've discussed it many times, and she considers racism an exercise of one's power over another. i.e., if you are in a position of authority, and you disqualify people from a position you will appoint based on their skin color, you have committed racism.
     
  8. kluke

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    I agree with her definition. I would also add that I see racism and racist as related but two separate things. Racist being a person, and racism being an act. You can be a racist and not commit acts of racism, and you can commit acts of racism without being a racist. Lets say in MC's friends scenario the hiring agent was not a racist but disqualified a black person because other racist employees would have issues working with them. That would be a non-racist using their hiring power to commit an act of racism. Which in some ways is worse.
     
  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Racism is an act though. If you aren't committing acts of racism, you are not a racist. It is an action you are taking against another race based on their race.

    Thinking to your self "I hate blacks" doesnt really mean anything. Actions matter. Not thoughts. A policy that limits a race based on race is racism. Saying "I hate black people" hurts no one. Its words. You know, freespeech.
     
  10. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    Lemme challenge this for clarification. If you think to yourself "I hate *whoever*" then that is what you believe. Beliefs become actions. I think that is just how it works psychologically. Even it is subtle like not picking someone for your team because you hate their skin or ethnicity. Is this an act of racism?

    How do you just filter out your belief to be non racist in your action?
     

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