Lee says he could have helped in BCS

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  1. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    When the plays you are calling aren't working, then CHANGE!!! You have NOTHING to lose. You can continue to run the same plays and go nowhere, or you can change it up, and go nowhere. The difference, is, at least the change has a "chance" of going somewhere, whereas what is proven to be impotent, does not.

    And your post goes back to the main point of it all. CLM didn't do a damn thing different in the second game than he did in the first. CLM apparently thought it would be another defensive struggle ... a tug of war. It appeared he thought if he played it safe, his defense would hold, and some point the defense or special teams would give Alleman a chance to kick a FG.

    Saban .. not so much. He realized that TR was NOT going to be the feature of the offense if they were to win. He also realized that the LSU's secondary is too dang good to throw the ball down field. Enter in Smelly and a strategy of short passes that picked on our LBs.

    Granted, our OL sucked, but not changing direction put a nail in their performance coffin. It's really kind of hard to get excited when your "leader" .. aka CLM, has thrown his hands up and conceded the loss at the beginning of the third quarter.

    Of course .. using TigerTap logic .. CLM crapped his bed when he was a baby, so it was bound to happen again. :hihi:
     
  2. raylsu

    raylsu Founding Member

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    You need to take into account that (1) Bama is/was a powerhouse that LSU never reached the ranks of while Saban was in Baton Rouge until towards the end, and (2) Alabama is a border state to Georgia and that can play a huge factor in the recruiting battles. Also a program like Bama would typically recruit for itself, but now will be unstoppable in the recruiting trenches with a coach like Saban at the helm. LSU didn't historically recruit for itself and only recently stepped up to that podium; however, this season proved to be a little disappointing on the recruiting front as well which could be a direct correlation of CLM and his coaching coming under a microscope.

    All the Saban bashing is ridiculous (although his personality seems to leave a lot to be desired). Saban turned this program into a national contender. It took years to get to that level and he had his bumps along the way. But Miles took over a well oiled machine and just had to keep the wheels from falling off. CLM is not on the same level as Saban. No way, no how. National Title game completely solidified the obvious.

    Either way :geaux:
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I want to say this is from the Alexandria Daily Town Talk but I'm not sure, a friend sent it to me....

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  4. tigerchick46

    tigerchick46 Quick Learner

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    Awesome LaSalleAve.....great find!
     
  5. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    I haven't read through the entire thread but good luck to JL and JJ in their future endeavors. I'll be rooting for both of them.

    Regarding Jamie Howard, he was definitely hated during most of his LSU career but his final season was my freshman year at LSU and he played a huge role in helping to "Bring Back the Magic". He avenged his Auburn INT demons with upsetting the #3 ranked Plains Eagle fake Tigers in Dinardo's home opener. Howard helped lay the foundation for the 1st bowl eligible team in six years. I think most reasonable fans would also (now) realize that Curley Hallman & staff had a big part in Howard's struggles.

    I wouldn't say Jamie Howard is beloved but somehow his senior year gets lost with some fans.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Does anyone remember the phone calls The Eagle was receiving after the Auburn 5 int game? Man, if anyone thinks Jordan or Jarrett had it bad, they weren't around for that.
     
  7. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    No, I can't prove it. I also can't prove that Man walked on the Moon, gravity exists or that animals have evolved over millions of years. I can't prove that unicorns don't exist either, so of course I can't prove that Lee wouldn't have beaten Bama both games. Such a claim would require omniscience and while I am one smart mother****er, I'm not that smart.

    I do however have more than enough evidence available to me that enables me make an intelligent guess at the outcome. As of today, Jarrett Lee has done nothing to give anyone a reason to believe that he would have led LSU to victory against Bama. Yet, some people choose to believe that he could have on the basis of "he couldn't have done worse than Jefferson".

    Well, yes he could have. In fact, over the course of his career at LSU he quite frequently did much, much worse than Jefferson.

    You go ahead and ignore four years of evidence, thought. Your "faith" that he could have done better certainly stacks up well against four years of bad decisions made while throwing off his back foot into double coverage. :rolleye33:

    He's a great kid and I admire the hell out of him ignoring idiot fans for four years, sticking with his teammates and coach and getting his degree. I hope he makes a career in the NFL.

    None of that changes the FACT that he was a poor QB at LSU.
     
  8. southerntgr

    southerntgr Veteran Member

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    CLM is that you continuing you love affair with JJ. Didn't Lee lead our team to victory when JJ was suspended for a bar fight. The same Lee that beat Oregon, WVU, etc and threw off his left foot. You know that guy. Thought so.

    I don't know how you can do worse then zero but you have evidence that you can do worse then zero. Prove it!
     
  9. Dudebro2

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    You don't want to pass blame, uhhhh I don't think you have to worry about that CLM get's all the blame for not implementing the full game plan because he is the Head Coach.
     
  10. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    I've asked once already but I'll ask again, how exactly could Lee have done worse than JJ in the NCG? We already lost the game by 3 TDs. You can't do worse than that.

    If the game was lost by 3 points at the end of the 4th qtr you might have a point. But JJ did not produce AT ALL. There's plenty of "evidence" from jan. 9th that shows LSU could have done no worse than an offense that did not produce at all. lee throws an int? So? Evidence already proves JJ would NOT have produced given every snap of the game.

    What's not proven is that Lee would have done nothing if given a shot. Sadly because of Miles stubbornness.
     

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