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Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by TheDude, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    i seem to see "we the people" not "we the corporation".
     
  3. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Are corporations made up of paper or people? Are you really this phucking dense or is it just an act?
     
  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yeah it's act, my real goal in life is to be exactly like you. You don't trust the government but you trust corporations. I would check the mirror if you want to find someone who is dense. Neither can be trusted.
     
  5. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Do you not understand the difference between the amount of suffering a corporation can inflict on you vs. what the government can do? I don't have to trust corporations. If I don't like one I don't deal with it. Corporations are powerless over me. I hate the way Ben and Jerry's pays for abortions, so I don't eat their crappy ice cream. It is really that simple. Corporations that fail to act in a manner that is pleasing to the public fail. Well they would except for the government propping them up. Don't you see how the government subjects us to this pain? I don't need protection form corporations I need the government to not be stupid. All these terrible banks and AIGs would not exist today except for our stupid government deciding they were necessary.
     
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  6. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Buckley v. Valeo is the original decision regarding campaign finance with the McCain/Feingold Act later amending the use of "soft" money among other changes. The basic premise of the that no one really argued against was allowing corporations, businesses, etc. to contribute and allow influence on elections. Ultimately, people in this country have the right to free speech. At the top of every business is either an owner or someone designated to represent the company and act in it's interests.

    This case actually led to the creation of the Federal Election Commission and several well-known concepts such as reporting of contributions, limits, etc. The uproar which sent this to the Supreme Court was that there were limits placed on contributions initially. Limiting contributions was deemed constitutional by virtue of their intent to guard against "unscrupulous practices".

    There's audio of the decision available at the Oyez Project website which should be bookmarked by everyone interested in politics...

    The Oyez Project, Buckley v. Valeo , 424 U.S. 1 (1976)
    available at: (Buckley v. Valeo, U.S. Supreme Court Case Summary & Oral Argument)
    (last visited Friday, June 25, 2010).
     
  7. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Well they say a man's reach should exceed his grasp. But if you really want to "act like me", you will have to use your brain. No real danger of that happening.

    In case you missed the point(you did), PEOPLE can't be trusted. But since we are ALL people, we just have to hold each other accountable. You see that is the true definition of fair. Everyone gets a voice. Even you. Next time use it to say something meaningful.
     
  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    hard for a fiscal conservative to vote for rubio since they had to foreclose on his house.

    seems that legitimizes that some (rich) have more influence than others (poor) in the political process. just one step removed from blacks counting as 3/5 a vote.
     

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