WTF @red55 that's just what I said. Get off the easy and convenient labels and think. I said he was a right wing nut. BUT THAT IS ANYTHING BUT CONSERVATIVE IMO. Do you understand the difference? He and others are breaking with the conservative tradition of Bush 1, Reagan James Baker and the one I hold. I'm sitting in a Starbucks on a way to a meeting but there are plenty of what you would call left wing nuts who used executive action to do the same. I never called them liberals I called them radicals OUTSIDE of conservative tradition. Quit trying to make debating points where there are none.
I understand that "right-wing" and conservative are synonymous. I understand that he is not a Traditional Reagan Republican but he is definitely a conservative. There are many flavors of conservative these days. I understand that Republicans are always conservative but conservatives are not always Republican. Take your time, amigo. I'm interested in what you call an example of this. You said "radical left". "Left" is synonymous with liberal. You suggest that his behavior was akin to the left-wing and I question that. I'll make mine, you make yours. Take 'em or leave 'em.
In Scandinavian Style Socialism even people with middle class incomes pay a huge percentage of it in taxes.
Please! Barrack hussein Obama is in his second term as president but the narrative has shifted far right, give me a break. The narrative has shifted so far left that a far left radical like Obama is considered mainstream by liberals.
You have consistently failed to provide any reason why Obama should be considered a far left radical. The radicals berate him for not being left enough.
Are you deliberately obtuse or just so caught up in loose speech that you don't understand the difference???? I made no reference to party...you assume too much. To be a conservative is to honor the existing situation yet be willing to adapt to the needs of the times. It is to use the proven means of change a society/polity establishes to make changes. It isn't to blindly hold on to a position just because it has always been s or invent supposed interpretations of law to have your way. For example I have embraced equal rights for all but feel many of the paths chosen are counter productive. Baltimore and the ghettos all over big cities are proof of that. In the past gay marriage was wrong because according to not only common belief but to the UN and the American Psychological Assoc, it was a deviant behavior not a product of nature. As I learned different my views have changed and I support it. I also support a church that still sees it as sin and doesn't accommodate gays (separation of church) BUT thinks bakeries should sell wedding cakes. Brownback and the others like him are not sticking to the past but inventing a past that never existed and demanding adherence to specific points of belief. They are ignoring the past to suit their desires. I see them as afraid to change which is NOT conservative. They also are not following the traditions established by 200+ years of constitutional law. They are no more conservative than Adolf Hitler.
No, I am deliberately accurate about terminology and you are careless. I do not confuse political positions with virtuous notions. That is not what a conservative is! They are merely virtues that you attribute to those whose policies you like. Moderates and liberals may also possess those same pragmatic virtues and conservatives don't universally possess them (as we both agree). con·serv·a·tive noun 1. a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics. 2. a cautious or discreet person. Like I said, you would be a right-leaning moderate if you admitted it to yourself and stopped fearing anybody to the left of you. By definition, conservatives are averse to change. Welcome to the middle. Open your eyes and look around. Adolf Hitler was the ultimate right-winger! He is history's most notorious fascist. His arch enemy was Joseph Stalin, history's most notorious communist. The Nazi party, despite it's name, was the epitome of right-wing radical politics. Authoritarian dictators exist on both ends of the political spectrum.
