Judge blocks federal funding of embryonic stem cell research....

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  1. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    Which is why embryonic stem cell research is not a health issue; it is a political issue. It is about a political agenda, not medical research. Pro-abortionists will fight to the death anything that might in any way suggest a fertilized egg constitutes human life. That is why they are fixated on stem cell research despite the fact that every single medical advancement using stem cells and been achieved using adlult or placenta stem cells. Using adult stem cells or placenta stem cells is a win-win situation. But pro-abortionist are not even remotely interested in a win-win. It is not enough for them to win; the other side has to lose.
     
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  2. mindy

    mindy Founding Member

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    I'm not seeing what the economy has to do with it (and I don't mean this sarcastically at all). Was the gov't going to allocate additional funds for this research on top of what already goes to NIH? If not, then the economy would have nothing to do with this area of research specifically, because X number of dollars are going to the NIH and from there will be doled out, if it doesn't go to ESC research it will go to other areas of research.
     
  3. mindy

    mindy Founding Member

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    Gov't shouldn't fund any research at all? Right now, it funds over half of all basic science research; that would be a lot of lost jobs and lots advancements if funding was cut.
     
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  4. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    That is correct. Stop the GOVT cycle of take and spend.

    If the govt actually spent less, and took less and gave the private sector some tax cuts for these "advances" that we need it would be a much more efficient process.

    There are better ways than Daddy Govt. picking and choosing.
     
  5. Chase4LSU

    Chase4LSU Waiting on Mettenberger

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    With the economy being the shape that it is, I'm not in favor of spending in any new areas. If the government is going to keep funding everything else equally, and start funding on this particular research, then it increases spending. That is why I don't like it. Now, if the government decided to cut from any of the much more wasteful and much more ludicrous spending than research so that it is properly and efficiently funded, I would be fine with it. But since such thoughtfulness is not likely to happen any time soon, I don't agree with funding it right now.
     
  6. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    FIFY.

    This young thinking person disagrees, good sir.
     
  7. sunnyjim

    sunnyjim Founding Member

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    Embryonic stem cell research does uses embryo's that are surplus from fertilization clinics, where they must attempt to fertilize many eggs to get one to take. Many do not. Other than waste this valuable substance, it is used to find cure for human diseases. Aren't you supposed to be pro-life? No, you are pro-religion.

    I do not object if you choose not to give stem cells to research or if you choose not to engage in stem-cell research. But you have no right to impose your religious beliefs upon me or anybody else if we choose to support such research.
     
  8. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Nonsense. I have said nothing about religion. These surplus embryos are human beings. Do you not understand that? And surplus? What a disgusting term for human life. You may npt know it, but these embryos are unique individuals with DNA that is different than the DNA of the father of the mother. They are fully human just like you and me. That fact seems lost on you.

    It's pretty clear you do not think human life is universally special, but rather there is some arbitrary point when a bunch of mung magically becomes a human. I can never accept this. We are individuals from the moment we are conceived. It is science that tells us this, not some holy book or magic shaman. Even if I were an atheist I would understand that life is pretty special and worth protecting.

    And for the matter embryonic stem cell research is NEEDLESS. We are murdering people when viable and in some cases even more promising alternatives are available.



    I certainly have a right to balk when my tax dollars are being used to fund unetical and inhumane medical research. I certainly have a right to petition for laws that protect life and to oppose things that cause the destruction of human life in the name of scientific fairy tales.

    I say it is you who has no right to decide which people can be destroyed for medical research and which ones can't.
     
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  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Perhaps he prefers the term "medical waste"?

    What a view
     
  10. sunnyjim

    sunnyjim Founding Member

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    I disagree with that. Half of the country does.

    Of course! I don't think that dead human tissue is sacred. That is a religious concept that has no business in science. Do you approve of organ transplants? That's also using dead human tissue to preserve the lives of others.
     
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