Wasn't one of the complaints early this season that we struggled in the red zone? That seems to be better. See there is sunshine if you just look up! Not to derail this long winding pretty much dead horse of a thread, but every week there is another complaint/weakness. Pass defense, JJ stinking, red zone production, penalties, and now special teams. Next week it will be linebacker play for all we know. Just chill out and enjoy this undefeated young team while it lasts!
Starting will not make Lee a better QB ! I thank it's smart to let him watch the opp D operate a couple of series to get it staight in his mind what he has to do !
The reason that jj starts is that he will melt down and completly fall apart emotionally if he doesn't. Miles doesn't want to see that. Miles pumped jj up all year saying how far he has come and how he was the teams leader etc. Miles wants jj to succeed to spare him the humiliation of being benched. Miles sees that he has pumped jj up so much that jj will take it personally as letting miles down and jj will never be the same again. I am not taking up for jj or miles. If jj never played in another game I can't say I would miss him. Miles knows that this young man has his entire life ahead of him and doesn't want to destory jj's self worth. He is acting more like a father protecting his boy than a coach. Saban would have benched jj and to hell with his self worth. Win or lose miles won't hurt this kid. Miles is thinking of jj's life after football.
What a crock of chit. I don't know either JJ or Miles, but I guarantee both are of higher quality than you obviously think.
Good stats. My theory is that they are just trying to bring JLee (not JJ) along slowly, let him continue to get positive game experience, and eventually he WILL be the starter. I think they feel they threw him in too quickly when he threw all of those pick sixes. Since the team is winning with JJ, they feel it is smarter to continue to bring JLee in off of the bench and ultimately let him take over fully when the time is right and he is supremely comfortable. In the interim, JJ starts and JLee comes in, plays a lot, gets experience, and will probably be taking over the starting role by the SECCG. That's my guess.
I talk positive about plenty aspects of LSU Football. I also have never complained about our Pass defense or special teams. Penalties, JJ's play, and not being able to get the ball in the endzone have all been serious problems. At least two of those issues go directly back to JJ. Again, if you had seen my stats, JJ has only lead 1 TD drive (which was the 1st play in the Tenn game) in the last 2 games compared to 5 by JLee. He also hasn't passed for a TD in the last 5 games. If that doesn't concern you well. . . There's a difference between blind trust in the coach and simply discussing possible ways to IMPROVE OUR TEAM. As far as chilling out and enjoying it "while it lasts". . .I'd rather it keep continuing. Which is why we're discussing this, many of us see starting and playing JJ significantly in this game as seriously slowing down JLee's development as a QB. We're going to need JLee to mature even more if we stand a chance against Bama, Burn, and Ark which he can't do sitting on the bench for half the snaps.
Your prior stats, and stats from the McNeese game show JLee is getting a majority of the snaps and is responsible for the most production/points. He will eventually be the starter. It's not an if but a when. Probably won't change much against AU to the dismay of most fans, especially how JJ played last night. Maybe our next "light" game we see JLee starting.
Well. I have changed camps. I don't see how any reasonable argument can be made for continuing to let Jefferson run the offense. The statistics are really very clear. Take away a horrible defensive collapse by Tennessee on the first play of that game (Jefferson was never touched), and he's done jack except inside the 5 or so. I think Red is right - he's probably a one trick pony. I'd be willing to try ware or Shep at the same trick, though.
Maybe I should search through your 600+ posts and generate some stats on that. I would bet that the stats show otherwise... J/K (maybe true though...) Never said that it doesn't concern me. Never. It is one thing to be concerned and it is another to suggest that JJ practice flipping burgers like kitavis does. I merely point out alternative reasons to why some decisions could have been made regarding the playing time of JJ vs JL. It is the over the top "sureness" that people have on these threads that they know better how to run the team than Miles that aggravates me and keeps me posting responses, not my belief in JJ's abilities. I think he has become a head case and I blame Crowton. And there is a HUGE difference between discussing possible ways to IMPROVE OUR TEAM and going over the top about how you think you know more about the psyche of the players than Miles and about how Miles is loyal to the point of driving the team into the group. When it comes to blind trust, I will when it comes to the psyche of the players. We don't know enough. Period. I will bitch about moan about the ineffectiveness of the offense and how the steady decline of it is disturbing, but I will be open minded enough to let Miles decide if it is Crowton (which I believe) or the lack of a quality QB that is producing poor results. Miles career depends on his decisions and he will be held accountable much like Dinardo was if it goes south. Yeah, like being negative and setting a negative tone to the point where the fans are booing the team is going to help it to continue. Again, assuming that YOU know more than Miles about what JL needs to develop as a QB is arrogant beyond belief. Can you entertain the thougt that throwing JL to the wolves before he is ready for it means that he WON'T be ready to Bama, Burn, and Ark. Easing him in and keeping the pressure off of him seems to be working. He is progressing VERY nicely. Can't you be happy for the success that he is having? Oh wait, no that is not allowed... What is REALLY funny about this whole situation is that a lot of fans think that they are protecting JJ and screwing over JL. It may be that the exact opposite thing is happening. If they really wanted to protect JJ, they would have pulled him completely very early on, let JL go out there and self destruct and then turn the team back over to JJ. That would have shown they were trying to protect JJ. Now it looks like they are saying "to heck with him" and just trotting him out there to fail and fail and fail while they bring JL along slowly. I am surprised that no one is pushing that argument. If there were any "JJ apologists" on here, they would have. But I have not seen that. There are a million ways to look at this and it is fun to discuss, but the "look at me, I am smarter than everyone" attitude is annoying especially when you are probably wrong. I am done with this issue as I think that it has played itself out by their performance in the last few games of splitting time. I think that JL is the man at this point and I expect it to be that way in the AU game. I will let it play out and gripe afterward though...
Ignoring all the other fluff of your posts, let's focus in on this point. WTF do you think already happen? Things went south and Les does exactly what you're saying he's trying to protect Lee from. He took a QB that threw the ball a total of 40 times all of last year, and threw him into the Tenn game and said, "Here. Go win it for us." Asking him to throw it 23 times on VERY LIMITED playing time over the past 2 years. The only difference is in your doomsday scenario JL self destructs and in real life JL lead LSU to victory not once but twice. Also it has nothing to do with "knowing more than Miles". It has to do with STATS. One QB is performing. One isn't. Period. I also enjoy how you said that I'm acting like I'm smarter than everyone, even though I'm "probably wrong". And then you go on in the very next sentence and AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN SAYING.
