JJ to start against McNeese

We don't know this because we haven't let JLee start in 2 seasons.

Do you call what JLee did in the last 2 games only mediocre?

 

Exactly.

We asked the back up QB to come in the game and throw 23 passes, when he only threw 40 passes total last season, in his first real playing time all season. We asked him to run the two minute offense and make at least 2 clutch passes on the game winning drive. All while the "starting" QB sat there on the bench.

If we can't ask the starting QB to drive our team down the field in the last few minutes of the game, why is he our starting QB?

 

Can YOU put a logical answer to this question? The answer that I see put out there is and has been:

1. Lee has a long history of making bad decisions. Last season and the season before. And yes he did start last season and yes he did stink. They don't trust him yet.

2. None of us see what they do in practice.

3. None of us know the personalities of these players and what makes them tick.

It is logical to assume that there are logical reasons the coaches are starting JJ. The answer that Miles is an illogical loyal idiot is not a logical answer. No coach is going to chance a loss based on loyalty. He will base it on trust. He obviously trusts JJ and he probably has a reason to trust him more than JL at this time (and we don't know those reasons because of #2 and #3 above). That may change very soon if JL continues to avoid killer mistakes. You might trust him more than the coaches do, but it seems that the coaches don't trust him (maybe because of #2 and #3 above?).

Lee has had a couple of good games and seems to be getting better each time. Working back from such a bad history is tough and takes time. Sorry, he dug himself into that hole and he is doing a great job of digging himself out. Let him do it. Leave him and the coaches alone. It is their job to do it. We don't know what will psychological help or damage these players. We don't know them. The coaches do.

None of us KNOW what would have happened if JJ would not have started and played as much in the UF game. None of us. What we do know is that we won. We could have won by 24 points with Lee in there by himself or we could have lost by 1. We don't know his state of mind and what makes him tick. He is obviously a guy with a LOT of baggage from his previous outings.

By whining and flailing about, it sets a tone in the fan base that leads to booing in the stadium. That hurts the program and does that opposite of what you claim to want. Logical discussion about this topic is fine, but some of the stuff in this thread is pathetic.

 

If it is gonna be a two QB system, here is how I justify playing JJ first. The first 10 plays or so are scripted, there is less pressure the on the QB, less decision making involved, I have more confidence in JJ at this point of the game (not more than JL, just more than having JJ get more snaps later in the game). Also, who starts is not nearly as important as who finishes.

 

Again, I'm not saying that JJ was perfect or even good in the games. However receivers dropping balls that hit them in the hands is a receiver error not qb. JJ did his own fair share of missing receivers, but both were responsible. Penalties on players other than JJ played a large part as well. JLs drives were incredible (Tenn and Florida) and it should be inspiring to Tiger nation, yet JJs run for a td to open the Tenn game is why we were in a position to win on JLs drive. Ridley is a monster player, yet against NC his two fumbles hurt a bunch. PP is the best defensive player in the nation IMHO, however his fumbled punt at Florida hurt the team as did the breakdown on kickoff returns. My point is still only that to solely blame JJ for the close games is a misguided thought in a team sport like football.

 

i didn't say that i agreed with what clm is doing in this regard, i offered my supposition as to why.

having said that, what happens when jlee stinks up the joint?

do you go back to jj as a starter?

no, you'll respond with "lee deserves a chance"

if that's true, then why does jj lose the starting job.....because he went 6-0, soon to be 7-0?

i'm guessing clm ain't looking at style points

 

This is pure nonsense and speculation.

- The TN game may have well been the blowout it was supposed to be if Lee had played the entire game, or even most of the game.

- We've already pounded the stats for FL ... Lee = 4 TDS, Jefferson = 2 FGs. .. and int and a bunch of punts.

- WVU and Vandy were offensive disasters. Those two games alone are what brought the microscope in on JJ.

As far as JJ's accountability .... the QB is the LEADER of the offense. If a QB pulls a JJ, and looks all confused, nervous, and timid, the offense commits penalties, WRs drop balls, and RBs get stopped in their tracks. Throw on top of that .. the Defense gets tired because every series is a 3 and out. The response of JJ to his offense is telling. WR drops ball, JJ whines, with a look of pain on his face ... whereas a LEADER stays positive and helps his team shake off the mishaps and move on.

As noted, reward should be placed were it is due. Lee should be the starter and play most of the game. JJ should be a part-timer sent in to throw off the defense.
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+1

And another thing, J-Lee puts much more touch on his passes making them easier to haul in, JJ fires his cannon on 11yd routes that tend to bounce off and go between WR's hands - We call them drops. Its obvious that JJ-TT is not a good combo, but JL - TT is CHEMISTRY!

Another thing about J-Lee I like so much, is his ablility to come to the line read the defense, either an outside LB or CB blitz, hot route and throw a quick strike for 10 to 12 yds. He did it in his famous first pass of the season and he did it again multiple times against the Florida Defense.

I like J-Lee, and if he can continue to air it out, our WR's will become more comfortable, the quick release helps the o-line, the passing game helps the running game, the combo of the 2 helps sustain drives and the sustaning of drives helps the defense get rested - Then what you have folks, is a solid football team - Top to Bottom

and with the talent we have coming back all around this team, if we do not snag the SEC Championship this year, I feel very strongly we will next year.

 

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Couldn't have said it better. Let's let the coaches earn their paycheck and make those decisions, while us fans enjoy being undefeated.