That is a great word, I just wish I knew what jefferson you were talking about. I see pretty nice spirals most of the time. And I haven't seen many of our receivers having any trouble cathing the ball from him. Pryor is extremely talented, but I think the difference right now is that he doesn't have that much talent around him on offense like Ohio St. usually has. I can't even name their RB (or even their WRs...which is unusual). If he had Wells back there again this year, it would probably be a different story. But all the attention is on him right now. Ohio St. isn't known for running the type of offense that he'd be great in. His Vick sticker turned me off and his response was even worse. If they can develop talent around him, then he'll be really tough to beat.
I don't know, he threw downfield plenty against Arky and Ga GaTech last year. He even had one absolutely beautiful bomb to Lafell that was called back. He's proven that he can and will do it, so I don't see why the coaches would choose to handcuff him now. It seems counter-productive. Either way, I hope the coaches turn him loose vs ULL. I think he needs to have that one confidence-building game to help him see the field so he can be ready when facing much tougher defenses than we've seen so far. As for the original question, I'll definitely take Jefferson, thank you. He seems to have a lot higher ceiling than Pryor. JJ doesn't have the most compact release, but Pryor is just a one-trick Pony with an awful motion, which severly limits his room for improvement as a passer.
see what made me think that is the fact that he is using a lot more different formations this year, using more of the playbook. last year there was all that talk about him being limited because his knowledge of the playbook wasn't very good. I don't think they are telling him not to do it, i just think that they are telling him to take what the defense is giving, and not try to make anything happen with his arm just yet. I actually think it is doing him a service if that is the case, because he is already better at checking off receivers than Jamarcus Russell was his whole college career.
I don't know what this would accomplish. That's fine and good right now if you're trying to gradually bring along a QB with a shaky command of the offense. But in a short 3-4 weeks that will no longer be enough to get the job done, so time is not a luxury we have when it comes to JJ's improvement. If you know your QB won't throw vertically, creeping safeties up would have the same effect as stacking the box against the run had last year when Lee and the coaches got gunshy. At some point he has to throw to receivers 10+ yards down the line of scrimmage, so it doesn't do JJ any favors in his QB progression to focus solely on the underneath routes. I'm looking for him to start doing a lot more in this respect, beginning with ULL.
well, we're seeing a lot more 5 wide sets with an empty backfield. line isn't holding up very well in that set, so we have to use a quick drop and throw. it looks like Crowton is adding more true spread option type formations to the offense, and it is taking time for the team to actually pull these play off right now.
Well, they are trying to put in him a position to succeed but soon they won't have that option. Basically, when his number is called it's an option play or a rollout, very few pocket passing plays. He hit a couple of big ones but for the most part the pocket plays are not being called. I would suspect the option will be gone once serious SEC play starts and the rollouts will be gone as well. Those 1-3 yard pass plays are already drying up, so the OC might want to start opening up the play book soon. IMHO
He played good with what he was asked to do which was option and rollouts mostly. To be honest I would say all of his starts have been about the same IMHO. Not bad, but not asked to do much. GT was just vastly outmatched in that game. IMHO I agree, he isn't being asked to do much, eventually he will have to do a lot. We'll see. He has played solid with rollouts and option plays. Nothing more, nothing less. The rollouts and option plays are already drying up, just like the Scott up the middle play started drying up last year. Yes, the deep ball is there but they are afraid to call that play as often as needed. A couple of more weeks of practice before the real season starts, we'll see. I think Jefferson has done fine but there is a ton more football left this year.
Sorry, but I have to disagree about GT game. The rest of his starts I would say were about the same, but not GT. First of all, you're probably always gonna see a good number of rollout and option plays with Jefferson. Why? Because that's the best way to max out on his talents. I think we did pretty good with Herb Tyler doing that while he was here (see victory against #1 Florida, etc.). I don't recall anyone saying GT was vastly outmatched before the game (and it was basically a home game for them as well). Yeah, they were vastly outmatched when the game happened because we stuffed someone on D for once and had an offense that they couldn't stop (including the QB). They could not get to him. There was a few times when they came close to sacking him and he had that one run where he hurdled over players and that other play where he did the Brett Farve flip to Scott for a nice pickup. Most QBs would have been sacked. The TD he threw was a straight drop back and he fired like a 26yd.strike to Dickson (no rollout). When you go 11-12 in the first half of a bowl game with a TD in what is basically a home game for the other team, I'd say you've done great. In the second half we were in cruise control and he didn't need to do anything but manage the game well (which he obviously did) and was named offensive MVP. The real season started Saturday night against a bowl winning team from last year. Vandy isn't a Flordia or Bama, but they can beat you without a miracle these days. We should have it easy this week, but then it's on to the meat of our SEC schedule. I agree that they need to really open things up with 10+ yard pass plays starting this week and improve their blocking or they really will have some tough times ahead. They'll definitely need more out of Jefferson in the upcoming weeks, but right now he is taking what is there to get the Ws.
please dont present facts to him, he is just going to say " So what" and he did just ok, nothing more, nothing less. wait for it.
My thoughts have been very similar to Tirk's, JJ is doing adequately for the moment. But, you want scrape by Georgia, Fla, Ala, or Auburn (it appears). He will have to improve better than "didn't lose it for us" or "didn't throw a pick." The coaching staff is guarding his decisions and minimizing vertical passing. We will HAVE to develop a VERTICAL passing game quickly to contend for a SEC championship. He will struggle with the deep pass in regards to timing, pass rush, and DB closure due to his long windup. This is my biggest concern. Many are just saying that Lee has a better passing motion and may be required to loosen a defense up if JJ cannot develop this skill. I see nothing wrong with that. Matter of fact, he has weathered a lot of criticism and hung in there with a good attitude. I think he deserves an opportunity if that opportunity is necessitated. Let's use all the tools in the toolbox. Unfortunately Miles is normally a bit late in figuring out personnel changes. He has 2 games to figure out his plan to get to the SEC Championship.
