Maybe red and Martin are the same person with split personalities? Bipolar and schizo. Hmmm. That would explain a lot. Interesting. Very interesting.
Red provides sources supporting his arguments often, and is invaluable in identifying non-credible references (half of you dipshits don't know the difference between the Washington post and Washington times).
Yea I gotta defend ole Red too, dude knows what he is talking about, there are certain things I would ask red about and feel comfortable I'm getting 100% fact. I feel the same about Supa in some cases too. But Red and Supa arguing, fuck that's like 2 heavyweights going toe to toe. You pick up alot of good information just reading.
Guess I'll chime in, too. Certainly, red has his patterns & tendencies when you get deep into an argument with him, but I think we all do, to some degree. It's just that most other posters usually turn to personal insults, dodging issues/questions altogether, or simply derailing the argument. The fact that you fucksticks think it's amusing to gang up on him like a pack of 7 year olds says a lot more about you than it does about him. But I suppose the fact that he's made many of you look utterly ignorant on occasion has fueled the resentment. You should be thankful that someone is willing to put such time & effort into refuting the often hair-brained ideologies that sometimes plague this board.
It looks like all of the people who have had their asses handed to them in a debate with Red are now forming a support group. They've even started a list of things they don't like about Red. It's sounding like a Reds Anonymous meeting.
By the way, Jeb Bush would be the Republicans best choice for 2016. He is a serious candidate who would be worth consideration, even against Hillary. Chris Christie is the only other option that is viable as of today IMO, but unless Christie loses a shit ton of weight I don't think he will subject himself to that kind of scrutiny and daily torture about what he ate that day.
Chris Christie is very outspoken. I like that about him. But he's cheeseburger away from pushing up daisies. I haven't followed Jeb to much.