Jarrett Lee this week

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Not talking about stats there my friend. I'm talking about play. Of all the starters in the SEC right now, tell me who you would rather have other than Jordan Jefferson? Crompton? Adams? Hartline? Todd? Snead? Lee? Cox? McElroy? Jefferson's stats reflect the lack of faith the staff has in him, watch next year. And if not, i swear i may put the bong down for a little bit.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, Garcia, Crompton, Snead and McElroy all have proven better arms than Jefferson. With our fabulous receivers, we badly need a passing quarterback. It's time for Jefferson to become one is he's ever going to. Other SEC quarterbacks are passing him by.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    all of which are juniors and seniors. Also Crompton, McElroy, and Garcia have not proven that at all. They have all struggled mightily this year, especially Crompton.
     
  4. LSU-SIU

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    Mallet is by far the best SEC pure quarterback, although the talent around him might not be the best.

    Florida will have a QB next year that can make the few throws they need a game to go all the way. You are not going to out talent... Florida, Alabama, and Georgia. You need a guy that is going to be make a few throws in those tough games.

    For LSU, it's simple, you need a guy that can hit someone on a freaking slant 6-13 yards down field and hit the guy in stride. That is the play, if you can't hit that play, you will get 8 and 9 guys in the box. You don't need TeBow or Mallet.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Garcia throws for 300 yards a game because they are always behind and have no running backs. Crompton just flat out sucks. Snead has been probably the biggest disappointment in the SEC this season, and McElroy is very inconsistent. I know i am going to totally kill what i said about not caring about stats, but his completion percentage is 2nd in the SEC behind Tim Tebow. And he is still learning the position.

    If i could hand pick my quarterback out of the qb's who are playing in the SEC right now. I would take Tebow first, then Mallet, then Jefferson.
     
  6. LSU-SIU

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    WR screens which are so dried up they make the Sahara Desert appear like an ocean is what makes the percentages go up. A lot of times those screens are going for losses now.

    I said at the beginning of the year those rollouts would not work and the WR screens and options would disappear... they have. You now need someone to take a quick drop back and sling it. If you can't do that you are going to have problems, why? because there are 8-9 guys on the other side of the ball playing in the box saying so.

    Jefferson probably is in the middle of the pack as far as SEC QBs but the skill LSU needs is someone that can take a quick drop back and sling to a guy in stride. He is absolutely no threat at all throwing. He definitely can get you 7-10 wins if you keep the talent around him very high.

    It's a choice, Jefferson is the safe bet because he doesn't turn the ball over. It depends on what you want the team to be competing for.
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yeah but the screen has served LSU well over the years. When you have a big receiver on the edge, and good blocking receivers, the wide receiver screen is a great play, ask Julio Jones. While i agree JJ does not have the best throwing motion, or the quickest release, and he takes too many steps back in the drop, he is accurate, and he can run when the pocket breaks down. He still needs work, but i think by the time next season starts, he will still be getting better, and i also feel that if we can get through WVU on the schedule unscathed, we are in a prime position to make a run for the national title. I think we are ranked #3 coming into next season, and it will ours to win or to lose.
     
  8. LSU-SIU

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    Sure, but when you run it over and over every game it's not going to work. It's not going to work when the defense is playing up on the WRs... which is what every team has been doing.

    The defenses are playing to win, they are playing 8 in the box and play tight on the WRs, WR screen don't work when they are playing like this.

    It's not a bad play, it's not the play that is the problem. When the CB doesn't have to worry about anything else it's an easy job.

    You might be able to out-talent those teams eventually the well will run dry, I suspect when this one runs dry it will go down very bad if they continue this course.

    It clearly is not working, it might appear to be working now because LSU was able to squeeze out a couple of wins they really kind of got beat in.

    Personally, I think any QB you have under Crowton right now is going to struggle. I am not hating on Jefferson, he is good enough to get you 7-10 wins.
     
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  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So what are you saying. Jefferson can't get better? I am having trouble grasping it.
     
  10. downtown

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    Again, this doesn't make sense. No other SEC team scored a TD against Bama in the 1st half this year. Jefferson had a passing TD against them. So there is obviously some kind of threat there. He needs to take a few more chances to become a bigger threat, but he has shown some good skills.

    And by the way, if Scott catches that pass on the first drive of the 2nd half after JJ scrambled and found him on the sideline, LSU probably would have taken the lead at that point. There was not a soul around and Scott would have just had to run forward.
     

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