January 6

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  1. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    let's take a closer look at the politico piece:

    Here's the partial text the 'committee' released:On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all

    Here's the part of the text the committee left out:
    — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence. ‘No legislative act,’ wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, ‘contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.’ The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: ‘That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.’ 226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916).”


    The committee released the portion of the text (the part preceding the dash) as it argued to hold Meadows in contempt of Congress, attributing it only to a “lawmaker.” Jordan’s office has confirmed he was the sender but emphasized that the message was merely the Ohioan forwarding analysis by another attorney — former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmitz.

    Jordan’s office has taken issue with the committee’s presentation of the text, which omitted the complicated legal citations in the second half. Schmitt’s words are an argument that Pence had the unilateral authority to simply refuse to count electoral votes he deemed unconstitutional, akin to arguments made by Trump allies John Eastman and Jenna Ellis.

    Jordan’s text does not make clear that it was a forward, and the committee has indicated that it would have questioned Meadows about the context of the text message had he appeared for a deposition.


    context is always helpful...
     
  4. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    Right, but only to sensible people. It doesn't matter to people that are close minded and/or have already made up their mind.
     
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    There is a lot of that these days on both sides of any issue. The more intense the issue the more its true
     
  6. Rex

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    Wait, what? We're supposed to believe that Jordan sent the text to Meadows for no purpose, whatsoever? That Meadows might be interested in the opinion of some yahoo only in an academic sense, because he might have been bored with 'The Little Engine that Could" or something? That Jordan was merely passing on opinions, absurd ones at that, to throw out electoral votes because he DIDN'T want Pence to throw out electoral votes?

    What context are you talking about? In ANY context Jordan is urging Pence to toss out the votes, whether Jordan wrote the opinion himself or not.
     
  7. Rex

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    Breaking: Judge rules against trump. trump lawyers asked judge to toss out January 6 lawsuits that accuse him of conspiring with two far-right extremist groups and others to block the presidential vote count.

    That orange piece of shit does so much losing he surely must be tired of losing by now.
     
  8. Winston1

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    The walls are closing in on the Donald. Bad news almost every day. Today a republican (correction Metha was appointed to the federal court by Obama. John Roberts placed him on this special court) judge allowed several civil lawsuits against his orangness to continue. These suits are about his actions on January 6 of which the judge said he was probably involved.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/judge-...p-militia-groups-in-jan-6-lawsuit-11645218911
     
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    maybe we’ll finally see the hours and hours of unreleased footage and perhaps find the elusive pipe bomber….
     
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    you TDS folks use the talking points word for word

     
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