The most complete description of Trump’s attempted usurpation. It puts the pieces together and provides documentation. I know you won’t believe or do care for one reason or another but I’ll keep you posted on the truth whether you want to be or not. https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/trumps-electoral-forgeryfraud
Well there’s the certainty of Eastman’s email, the fraudulent slates of electors, and others that lend much credence to the fact there was a plan and an attempt to make it happen. Aaron Burr was condemned with less evidence.
You keep making shit up you think I said; then shooting your own shit down; and claiming debate victory. I never said we almost lost our democracy on Jan 6th. But our democracy is built on laws and trust and we use ceremonial processes to remind ourselves of important events. Ceremonial events like singing the national anthem, raising/displaying the flag at public gatherings, and the ceremonial peaceful transfer of the reigns of government. When you damage those ceremonies you weaken the processes behind them. If a school raises the flag before a sporting event but allows three people to protest by simultaneously taking a shit on the base of the flagpole - that ceremony does not show respect for our history and what we are honoring with the flag. And every flag raising at that school afterwards will have that memory and the open question of whose going to shit it up today. IF someone burns a flag or if a handful of athletes in a statistically small amount of athletic events are kneeling for the national anthem it doesn't really threaten us. But a lot of the right seems more threatened by that than the attach on our capitol. Trump is not unique in saying he didn't lose or that the voting was wrongfully impacted by some event. He has that in common with Hillary and Gore. He has the right, and responsibility to his supporters, to take those grievances into the courts - which he also has in common with Gillary/Gore. When those court cases overwhelmingly fail, when his own justice department and Attorney General say he lost the election he has a responsibility to the country to lead his supporters in the support of that important traditional ceremony. He should have been leading his people in a salute to the flag raising; not pouting while watching his supporters take a dump on the ceremony. Even his kids knew that. Insurrection refers to an attempt; a successful insurrection is called a revolution. Revolution is what many Trumpistas like to talk about - taking back the country by whatever means necessary . Of course Jan6th was not a minor event, because it was not a singular event. It was a peak point in the continuing event of fallout from Trump's inability to acknowledge he lost and to honor an important American tradition. And it has definitely damaged the respect we have always shown to the handoff of government. When Trump wins again, and I think it's more likely than not, he will reap what his supporters have sown. And then, we all lose.
You do know the government isn't something you hand off right? In fact, Trump and Biden could of both died along with their VP's in a plane crash and the government is still in-tact. The Viking could of kidnapped Pence and the government is still in-tact. The viking could have changed the locks on the capital and the government is still in-tact. This entire argument is around a made up event that never happened.
EXACTLY .... an insurrection is an attempt to overthrow an authority or the government, .. that's quite a bit different from protesting the criminals that are in it.
Just clarifying what @onceanlsufan posted. He said the riot was against criminals in office. The only criminal in office at the time was Trump. Right?
