January 6

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUTiga, Jul 27, 2021.

  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    holy fuck we might lose our democracy
     
  2. Winston1

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    An insurrection and attempted usurpation of the presidency. Martin’s example was and is a red herring that has no basis in reality.
     
  3. LSUpride123

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    What emergency powers?

    Is this like when Palpatine took control of the Senate?
     
  4. LSUpride123

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    Neither does yours. Thats kinda the point.

    Nothing is stopping you from believing in it though. Nothing you have laid out has even the remotest possibility of ever happening.
     
  5. Jmg

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    its not a red herring i am asking to what extent you think the certification is purely ceremonial or actually controls the power in terms of elections and legitimacy
     
  6. Rex

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    In trump's case, whatever emergency powers he thinks he's entitled to have. In the past, US presidents have used emergency powers to use our military against civilians, to wage war without Congressional consent, even to suspend habeas corpus.
     
  7. LSUpride123

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    Ohhhhh, ok. So what would you have done if Trump did that?
     
  8. Winston1

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    No but the president declaring a national emergency and martial law is. Of course the democrats would have fought it but as Andrew Jackson said when the SCOTUS told him he had to do something “Let them enforce it” or words to that effect. Basically Trump had the power of the executive branch to enforce his words. How far he would have been followed and how it would work is unknown and unknowable except it would have been a fatal blow to our system of government.
     
  9. Jmg

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    by the way its worth noting that hillary also had a failed plan for overthrowing an election, but her plan didnt work either, she invented a lie about russia, which she bought and had invented from thin air, then her allies in the democratic party pushed this lie forever, hoping to overthrow the will of the people by lying about trump and russia and impeaching trump.

    goddamn insurgency
     
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  10. Rex

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    Then why was it the plan in the Eastman e-mails? Why was it the plan contained in drafts by trump, himself?

    All of it could have very easily happened. We were one man away, and to Mike Pence's credit, he didn't cave. On that day he was a Profile in Courage.
     

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